Re: Flattening Paper- Mini Tutorial
Thanks John for your delightful reply!! I leave it intact for
And NOW I do believe you. But I couldn't believe you because I
wasn't at all sure I understood that the paper and the plexi were
really intended to stay as a unit. So, now that I understand, I
doubt no longer!! (And I have some plexi, John, but thanks for
AND for the rest following this thread -- I have a "duh!" to report.
I have always known, since the beginning of my reading that paper
was a major ingredient. And, because most of the folks, on their
lists, included Arches HP Watercolor - I invested in a block as
my stock paper, only to run into the severe curling -- etc. etc.
Well, yesterday, having accumulated 4 or 5 errands (gas
conservation going on here) to do in the nearest city (35 miles)
with an art supply store, I went there and bought one sheet of
Saunders Whatman -- and have just gone though a cyanotype to the
drying stage and voila! The sheet is still flat and ready for the
gum. Temporarily very happy camper here. And if this sucker comes
out as I see it in my mind, I will post it where you can gawk if
love to all --
John Grocott wrote:
Clair and Others,
Clair, I do not consider you are a bumbling
idiot but I can understand you may not be too keen to spend the cash and
effort cutting from a 5 X 2 foot sheet an A4 piece of keyed Plexiglass
before you can believe it works. It has worked for me over the past
fifteen years. However, the paper will release early from the plastic if
it has not been thoroughly cleaned of grease or if the sanding is not
course enough. The paper can be re-stuck down if this happens.
I am continuing this thread with you ON
LIST as it might prove to be a source of amusement and even a little
education for List lurkers, but I am finding it difficult not to slide
into my slightly sarcastic/facetious mode (see my past postings) as I
cannot see what is not to believe, for you.
Just try it and see. If you find what I am saying is
rubbish, please tell everybody and guard them against making a similar
mistake. Then I will bow my head and slink back into the shadows.
If you send me your mailing address OFF
LIST we may be able to negotiate the cost for me to mail to you an A4
sheet of keyed Plexiglass plus cost of postage and packing, but,
honestly, I would rather not.
You cannot always trust what you
believe, or not, in place of practical testing. Much depends on the
imagination, of course.
''All experience is memory'' Aristotle ?
Ciao and best wishes.
John - Photographist - London - UK
PS John Cremati's solution of a 300 ton press may not necessarily work,
either ,unless you get the gelatine mix right.
----- Original Message ----- From: "cadunn" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Flattening Paper- Mini Tutorial
Without this key the paper would release too easily from the support
and this would defeat the aim of the operation which is to keep the
paper stuck down through multiple coatings and cold soak developments
used in Gum and other processes.
I'm having a hard time with this thread-- here's what I'm absorbing:
Stick the paper down with gelatin to the plexi and dry it. Then it
stays there through multiple coatings, exposures and washings (plexi
and print go into the bath). i.e. -- it NEVER (not once) comes off
the plexi again until the end??
Is that right? (I find this hard to believe- which is why I'm asking
for help even at the risk of being considering a bumbling idiot!)
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