From: Thor Bols (email@example.com)
Date: 05/28/01-10:07:48 AM Z
I, too, am frustrated in my attempts to receive any substantive assistance
from Cone. Let's face it, this product is not cheap, and Cone is behaving
as if supplying samples, documentation, and anything except PRICES is
somehow a major inconvenience. The marketing approach seems to be one of
simply letting satisfied customers spread the word.
Hopefully, Jon Cone will be fabulously successful is selling his product to
the well-heeled and the institutionally sponsered. Successful enough to
inspire some competition who might be more inclined towards service and fair
>From: "Jeffrey D. Mathias" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: Re: Piezography Product info
>Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:48:23 -0400
>Nick Makris wrote:
> > ...
> > And Jeffrey, where did you find info about the significant Peizography
> > capital investment you are considering and how does it differ from the
> > products they are offering?
>I figured about $4000 for the Epson 7000 printer (Epson site),
>$2130 for Cone's products (inkjetmall site),
>$400 for a roll of film (post from Dan B.),
>and something for extra ink and backup replacable parts for the printer.
>This doesn't include building a table and roll feeder.
> > ... I am
> > concerned about my expectations not being met....
>And so am I. The 16-bit capability is of great importance. The
>multiple carbon based inks are important. I have been interested only
>because of what Dan Burkholder has said about his use with such
>materials and equipment (I know that Dan makes quality prints, I've seen
>them). However, I am serious about what will be needed to do the job I
>The inkjetmall site is in lack of much supportive documentation, but
>what is really needed is a sample. This is what I referred to as a
>"test drive". I do not understand how difficult it could be for Cone to
>print some of his own samples that showcase the ability of his
>products. The cost of doing so would be very low and paid back quickly
>by even a few sales it would generate. (And what about the repeat
>business to buy ink and such?) I would certainly want a sample negative
>demonstrating the range, density, tonal quality and other aspects
>claimed. A sample size of 4x5 inches should do if it has the
>appropriate range of a typical 21-step with both steps and continuous
>I also recall the downloadable file of test images on the inkjetmall
>site. I have downloaded this file and print the image on my printer.
>But I do not have a print from Cone's products for comparison. And
>again for my case I would like a print on transparency material.
>Jeffrey D. Mathias
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