From: Richard Sullivan (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: 07/08/02-04:48:28 PM Z
Sorry to not have followed up on this but with the LF conference and
Platypus among only a couple of events -- I've been busy.
Trust me -- these gums are breathtaking and are unlike anything I've ever
seen. It seems like a consensus among those who have seen them.
Stuart and Stan Klimek, and Kerik Kouklis have been feeding off of each
other technically by sharing their knowledge. Stan brought some stunning
pure gums to Platypus and showed them. Kerik who showed some subtle gum
overs as well -- oohs and aahs all over his as well. Kerik Kouklis, Stan
Klimek and Stuart Melvin are all doing ground breaking work and have raised
the bar by more than a few meters.
The crowd at Platypus was pretty sophisticated and their reaction to the
three workers in gum was in line with what has been said here by those who
have seen some of them in real life..
We even had one man, Kuo Chung Huang, fly in from Tokyo to attend. Kuo is a
doctoral candidate in Art at Nihon University doing his dissertation on
some aspects of platinum printing. His English is not too good and my
Mandarin is non existent so I am not quite sure of what the dissertation is
on in any detail. Clearly Asia is on the rise in alt!
And no -- they do not look like Cibes.
At 02:15 PM 7/8/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Jeff Buckels wrote:
>>Though I did not attend the Alt Photo Conf in Albuquerque, I have in recent
>>weeks seen numerous recently-produced gum-overs and gums by Stuart Melvin,
>>Kerik Kouklis, Stan Klimek and others. I'm puzzled by Katherine Thayer's
>>posting. Maybe the gum-over craft has simply been elevated in recent times.
>>Anyway, I see very little connection between these recent gum-overs/gums and
>>Cibachromes. The color/texture appeal is to me altogether different. For
>>that matter (full disclosure) I'm not sure I've ever seen a Cibachrome I'd
>>allow on the same wall with a fine gum-over. These gum-overs/gums I've seen
>>recently include some of the most beautiful pictures, of any kind, I've ever
>>seen. -jeff buckels
>I too am puzzled by Katharine's remarks. Stuart Melvin's gum over platinum
>prints are stunning and are among the most beautiful prints I have ever
>seen that use gum, either partially or in whole.
>They are so unlike Cibachromes it is quite pointless to even attempt a
>comparison. I find the use of the terms "glowing" and "luminosity" to be
>very positive when describing prints. The opposite is often dull and lifeless.
>>Katharine Thayer <email@example.com> said:
>> > Richard Sullivan wrote:
>> > >
>> > > When Stuart brought out his 20 x 24 twelve coat gums there was a audible
>> > > murmur in the audience. Those prints are unlike anything I've ever seen,
>> > > and if I did not know, I would have guessed they were carbons except for
>> > > the luminosity. They had an unearthly glow to them. ... They were
>>certainly not your Photo 101 gritty
>> > > gums.
>> > Not to take anything from Stuart, but glowing gum prints are hardly new;
>> > people have been printing glowing gum prints for quite a while. For a
>> > couple of examples, Hamish Stewart's many-layered prints come to mind,
>> > and there was a fellow in LA who did gum prints that looked like
>> > Cibachromes, and I did some glowing gum prints myself earlier in my
>> > career but it wasn't an aesthetic I found pleasing for my own work. I
>> > figured if I wanted to make something that looked like Cibachromes I'd
>> > print Cibachromes, it would be a whole lot less trouble.
>> > Katharine
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