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How to Create and Do Interdisciplinary Research
Chair — Murray Fulton
Other resource people — Darwin Anderson,
Jon Gillies, Karsten Liber, Jim Randall, Norma Stewart
Reporter — Tina Portman
Morning Session
Introduction
Darwin Anderson
The following suggestions come from the experience as the Principal
Investigator for the Prairie Ecosystem Sustainability Study (PECOS):
- Be optimistic.
- Don't get discouraged.
- Team building takes time.
- Develop a nurturing environment.
- Graduate students are very important.
- Promote frequent and intense interaction.
Some self-criticism from the PECOS experience:
- Leadership is important. A large project like PECOS needs
a full-time leader to keep the project going.
- Studies can become too broad, leading to hyperdiversity.
- Need to promote frequent and intense interaction.
Murray Fulton
Interdisciplinary studies work best when a group identifies a
problem to study and then goes about determining the research.
By identifying the problem first, a need for new ideas and methodologies
is created. Find a geographical location to carry out the work.
Interdisciplinary studies do not require that everyone on the
team is interdisciplinary. To do interdisciplinary research you
need to be able to interact and communicate with people from
other disciplines.
The most important part of interdisciplinary research is to
build trust. Researchers must learn to trust each other and
share their ideas and experiences.
Discussion
- Is there a problem with taking over other people’s
knowledge? Who determines where initiatives come from?
How do you address this ethical/political problem?
- An even broader example is when working internationally,
who keeps the data, etc.?
- There are two categories: 1. creating ideas/information
which is broad and interactive 2. research in which every
member brings expertise to find the solution of the problem.
- Each researcher brings knowledge, receptivity, and
need. If there is hyperdiversity there will be a loss
of rigour and focus. Researchers need new forms of community
and interaction and in this case the group would meet
again to develop momentum.
- Technology is ahead of the public mind. For example,
if ethicists were involved, biotechnology would not be
in the trouble it is today.
- Internationally we need "power with" not "power
over". Academia tends to promote "power over".
How does one justify "power with" when the
University does not recognize collaboration and team
membership, but first authorship?
- We need to be able to recognize people’s contributions
and the source of ideas/power. This must be self-organized,
it can’t be imposed from the top.
- Institutions — The collective agreement doesn’t
facilitate interdisciplinary research because of the
way we priorize journal papers, procedures, and performance
standards. Teamwork takes more time and produces fewer
publications.
- Interdisciplinary research at this University tends
to rely on students to take the risk and find interdisciplinary
supervisors.
- In an example from the U of S, a faculty member in
one department was part of an interdisciplinary research
group and when promotion time came the interdisciplinary
work was downplayed so that person was penalized for
doing interdisciplinary work. How can we foster interdisciplinary
research?
- In health research, "interdisciplinary" is
a buzzword and people want to foster it. Interdisciplinary
research is seen as a stage in one’s career. Junior
researchers are not willing to get into interdisciplinary
research — they want to get established first.
If we think of interdisciplinarity as a career path,
then we should be aiming at mid-career faculty.
- Successful groups cultivate cross-connections. Perhaps
it is bad to leave interdisciplinary research to mid-career.
- I disagree at aiming at mid-career researchers. We
need to create an environment where it is legitimate,
valid work and create support for young faculty. The
most interesting research occurs at the interface of
disciplines and young faculty should be able to do this
research too.
- Granting agencies are shifting to expand university
boundaries by requiring commitments from non-university
partners. We need to think beyond university disciplines
and boundaries. If our goals are to value interdisciplinary
work then the traditional academic model of measuring
outputs by papers will need to expand to measuring social
benefits, and partner benefits.
- In my experience, multidisciplinary teams were more
a coalition of researchers working on a problem with
diverse aspects, publishing products within their own
disciplines. There is a lack of interdisciplinarity.
We need to come up with alternatives for graduate students,
to train people in how to understand different disciplines.
We need a new group capable of thinking in different
disciplines to help draw teams together.
- We need to be able to accept the ideas of others outside
our disciplines as valid and argue from logic, not authority
(i.e., we don’t need board certification to be
able to discuss novel research outside of our discipline).
- For the public to accept the validity of what we do,
we need board certification.
- But we shouldn’t allow certification to get in
the way of our research.
- We should nourish interdisciplinarity at the undergraduate
and graduate levels. We need to transform the institution
and culture and value and protect interdisciplinarity
for students and faculty. It’s a combination of
integration and aggregation.
- The University has multiple purposes. As the People’s
University, interdisciplinary research can help us solve
Saskatchewan problems, measured by research, extension,
and public service.
- Outputs are measured by: 1. numbers of academic papers,
and 2. academic papers with one reader (a model that
is killing us). We need balance. Grant money is publication
dependent. By leaving emphasis on funding and increasing
time to tenure, the advice for young faculty is "churn
out papers."
Afternoon Session
Discussion
- Is there a problem with receiving due credit for interdisciplinary
research at the U of S?
- Yes. One researcher who was involved in collaborative work
was questioned when promotion time came as to specifically how
much did s/he contribute.
- Departments and colleges need to be able to assess the value
of interdisciplinary research. The tendency now is to ignore
it. What happens to people who dedicate part or all of their
time to interdisciplinary research? We need to set up interdisciplinary
research to enliven and create new disciplinary departments.
Now with a big project, interdisciplinary researchers have difficulties
maintaining links to their original disciplines to get feedback.
- There is nothing wrong with justifying your research and over
time it will become easier to "make a case" for interdisciplinary
research. Interdisciplinary research requires more time which
is why more senior faculty than junior faculty get involved since
well-established disciplinary routes will produce two to three
times the output. Interdisciplinary research is a career penalty
for young faculty.
- Business people can immediately see the practicality of interdisciplinary
research but academics tend to resist.
- Researchers involved in interdisciplinary research should leave
a paper trail by including it in their annual reviews. Increased
exposure of interdisciplinary research will increase its value.
- Interdisciplinary graduate students are not committed to disciplinary
boundaries.
- We need to increase cross-departmental and joint appointments
and change the administrative difficulties with doing so.
- How do you get started with collaborative research?
- Both parties need to support the research and have a comfort
zone.
- Should we have an "overseer" to link up projects
with collaborative potential on campus?
- Collaborative relationships must come from the bottom up.
- When you make connections, choose collaborators whose strengths
complement yours.
- At other universities, teams are put together by an administrative
assistant. Here it is done by faculty.
- To be effective we need to accept legitimacy of other scholarly
activities on campus and other perspectives.
- One way to promote interdisciplinary research campus-wide is
through a symposium.
- How do people connect — we need to increase the opportunities
to chat over coffee, etc.
- At our staff meetings we talk mostly about people’s research,
not administration.
- In the humanities there is a perception that there is a pressure
to work with a science model of interdisciplinary research. We
need a clear, concise description of interdisciplinary research.
- More opportunities to network on a regular basis will cultivate
interdisciplinary research, finding common problems to address.
- People have to discover on their own what interdisciplinary
research models work for them.
- Sharing with experienced academics will help people get started
in an interdisciplinary framework.
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