From: IN%"jwillard@turbonet.com" "Janice Willard" 16-FEB-2005 11:22:40.19 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: animal welfare legislation Hi, I have been contacted by a state representative here in the State of Idaho because they are in the process of amending our state animal welfare regulations. I am both flattered that they asked me to comment and enthused that they are looking at the laws for possible revisions and improvements. Idaho is a largely agricultural state (except around some rapidly developing cities) and the people here are fiercely independent--especially the country folk. Getting good laws on the books is very important and I want the legislature to have the best possible advice in crafting workable and progressive laws. However, on the downside of that is that I have never worked with legislation before, so this is not my area of expertise. If any of you have experience with animal welfare legislation and would be willing to help me review this document and give good advice and documentation to the legislators who are working on this bill, could you please contact me off-list? Thanks very much in advance. Janice Janice Willard DVM, MS Moscow, ID USA From: IN%"dmb16@cam.ac.uk" "Donald Broom" 16-FEB-2005 12:32:37.11 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: legislation Dear Janice If you want access to scientific reports on animal welfare and animal disease topics you can find them at: http://europa.eu.int/comm/food/fs/sc/scah/outcome_en.html You can also find EU laws (Directives and Regulations) relevant to animal welfare at: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/lif/reg/en_register_1540.html Best wishes Don -- Professor Donald M. Broom Colleen Macleod Professor of Animal Welfare President Department of Veterinary Medicine St Catharine's College University of Cambridge Cambridge CB2 1RL CAMBRIDGE CB3 0ES U.K. U.K. Telephone 0044 (0)1223 337697 (0)1223 338344 Fax 0044 (0)1223 337610 e-mail dmb16@cam.ac.uk From: IN%"Ingvar.Ekesbo@hmh.slu.se" "Ingvar Ekesbo" 16-FEB-2005 15:13:19.59 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: IN%"jwillard@turbonet.com" Subj: animal welfare legislation Dear Dr Willard I think you have to find valuable information from the work regarding animal welfare made in Council of Europe since the early 1960s. As a result there exists several international animal welfare conventions. I have listed them below: For convention 087, farm animals, there is set up a Standing Committee, which since 1979 has elaborated detailed rules for each species. For the time being such rules are elaborated for Cattle, Pigs, Poultry, Turkeys, Ducks, Geese, Muscovy ducks, Fur animals and Ratites. You might get them from the council of Europe. For those Council of Europe member states which have signed the convention these rules are binding and has to be implied in the national legislation. As also European Union has signed the convention the EU is also obliged to insert these rules in its legislation. You might find some information under: http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/Commun/QueVoulezVous.asp?NT=087&CM=8&CL=ENG and http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/Commun/ListeTableauCourt.asp?MA=42&CM=16&CL=ENG 065 European Convention for the Protection of Animals during International Transport 193 European Convention for the Protection of Animals during International Transport (Revised) 087 European Convention for the Protection of Animals kept for Farming Purposes 145 Protocol of Amendment to the European Convention for the Protection of Animals kept for Farming Purposes 102 European Convention for the Protection of Animals for Slaughter 104 Convention on the Conservation of European Wildlife and Natural Habitats 123 European Convention for the Protection of Vertebrate Animals used for Experimental and other Scientific Purposes 170 Protocol of Amendment to the European Convention for the Protection of Vertebrate Animals used for Experimental and other Scientific Purposes 125 European Convention for the Protection of Pet Animals Ingvar Ekesbo *************************************************** INGVAR EKESBO DVM,HonAssocRCVS PhD,Dr.h.c., Prof.em. Office: Dept Animal Environment and Health Section Animal Hygiene SLU, P.O.Box 234, 532 23 SKARA, Sweden Tel.: +46 (0)511 67246, Fax +46 (0)51167204 e-mail: Ingvar.Ekesbo@HMH.SLU.SE Private:Rektor Juhlins gata 9, 532 33 SKARA, Sweden Tel/fax: +46 (0)511 12278; mobile 0708-122781. e-mail: ingvar@ekesbo.se *************************************************** From: IN%"daisyberthoud@yahoo.com" "daisy berthoud" 17-FEB-2005 06:38:58.21 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Q1 dog UV vision, Q2 testosterone fluctuation Dear All, As I know there are very knowledgeable people from a wide range of fields on the list, I am directing my questions to you. I am wondering if dogs can see light in the UV range. Mice seem to see urine marks of conspecifics in the dark. Is there any book or paper that I could refer to, or does anybody know themselves ? The other question relates to testosterone levels in dogs. Do they vary over time, diurnally, or across seasons ? Testosterone levels in many mammals are elevated during the breeding season, but as far as I am aware reproduction in dogs in a domestic environment is not influenced by season. Your help is much appreciated, thank you. Daisy Berthoud Postgrad student APU, Cambridge, U.K. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From: IN%"dale_arey@tiscali.co.uk" "dale arey" 17-FEB-2005 09:38:27.45 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: animal welfare legislation Dear All Following the recent thread on animal welfare legislation, I would be interested to find out examples of specific farm animal welfare legislation in different countries from across the globe. I am familiar with examples from Europe, USA, Canada and Australia. Is there existing legislation in Asian and South American countries? Dale From: IN%"simon@gadbois.org" "Simon Gadbois" 17-FEB-2005 12:03:03.48 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "Applied Ethology List" CC: Subj: elephant nose fish Hi, Sorry to post again on this topic, but somebody on this list may have mentioned that a fish broker/distributor in Ontario would/could/may be able to supply me in Gnathonemus petersii (elephant nose fish)? Did I dream this? What would be the name of that company? Thank you, Simon G. --- Simon Gadbois, Ph.D. Psychology / Neuroscience Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada Ethology, ethoendocrinology & ethotoxicology. Behaviour of wild canids and Fundulids http://www.gadbois.org/ Office: Life Sciences Centre #5219; 494-6809. Office hours: Monday 3 to 5 or by appointment. --- From: IN%"saluqi@ix.netcom.com" "John Burchard" 17-FEB-2005 20:10:32.82 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "Applied ethology list" CC: Subj: RE: elephant nose fish Simon Gadbois wrote: > Sorry to post again on this topic, but somebody on this list may have mentioned that a fish broker/distributor in Ontario would/could/may be able to supply me in Gnathonemus petersii (elephant nose fish)? Did I dream this? What would be the name of that company? Thank you, I certainly didn't post that information, but if you put "Gnathonemus petersii" into Google, you might find something. I did so a week or so ago, not looking for brokers/dealers, and seem to remember seeing several, though since I wasn't looking for that particular information I didn't make note of them. John -- Dr. John Burchard Tepe Gawra Salukis http://saluqi.home.netcom.com/ saluqi@ix.netcom.com From: IN%"saluqi@ix.netcom.com" "John Burchard" 20-FEB-2005 10:42:01.10 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "Applied ethology list" CC: Subj: RE: elephant nose fish I received the following message from "Confirmation from mary doran " > The message that you sent to me (mary doran) has not yet been delivered: > > From: saluqi@ix.netcom.com > Subject: elephant nose fish > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:09:24 -0800 > > I am now using Vanquish to avoid spam. This automated message > is an optional feature of that service, which I have enabled. > > Please accept this one-time request to confirm that the above > message actually came from you. Your confirmation will release > the message and allow all future messages from your address. > > Click here to confirm: > http://confirm.vanquish.com/?U=4fYjtw6YjLUF8Aid75QY7w > > Vanquish respects my privacy and yours. Your confirmation > gets your mail delivered to me now and in the future. It > does not serve any marketing purpose. Learn how privacy is > assured: www.vanquish.com/privacy I do not think it is incumbent upon me, as a subscriber to a public mailing list, to seek permission from every other individual subscriber for them to receive messages I send to the list. Or to put it more bluntly, I don't think it is my obligation to fix someone else's incorrectly configured spam filter by going to a commercial Web site. This is not an isolated occurrence. I have received similar requests from the spam filters of several other list subscribers. Since I refuse on principle to "clear" my messages, if sent to a public list, through someone else's spam filter, I am probably on the auto-delete list of several subscribers - and probably without their knowledge. It happens that some of those whose spam filters have blocked my list messages are among those whose contributions to this list I consider especially valuable and interesting. That does not change my opinion that it is not my job to fix the problem. I am as troubled as anyone else by the spam phenomenon. Unfortunately, the "state of the art" of spam filtering is fairly primitive, as this event reveals. The present generation of spam filters may create more problems than it solves. I suspect, however, that putting any mailing list to which you subscribe on the "white list" of your spam filter would avoid nearly all occurrences such as this one to which I am responding. If you are going to subscribe to a mailing list, and use a spam filter, it is IMO incumbent upon you (and nobody else) to make sure that messages from that list will be passed by the spam filter, without requesting confirmation from the other individual list subscribers. I receive a message similar to the above, from Mary Doran's spam filter, in response to every message I post to the Applied Ethology list. In the recent past I have received similar messages from the spam filters of several other list subscribers. I presume (not having heard further from those spam filters) that I am now on the auto-delete list of those subscribers. I further presume that was not actually their intention, and that they may not even know about it. I hasten to add that I have no objection to "clearing" messages I send privately, though that necessity still reveals weaknesses in the current generation of spam filters. I have a carefully chosen system of firewall, antivirus software and spyware detectors in place to protect my system. To date it has functioned 100%. I still prefer, however, to delete manually the numerous spam messages I receive each day (most of them easily recognizable for what they are) rather than install a quirky and unreliable spam filtering system. John -- Dr. John Burchard Tepe Gawra Salukis http://saluqi.home.netcom.com/ saluqi@ix.netcom.com From: IN%"gooddog@dodo.com.au" "Geiger" 20-FEB-2005 22:33:27.95 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: filters are creating more unwanted emails for the rest of us... Those of you employing filters are increasing the quantity of unwelcome emails, such as this below. I had nothing at all to do with this discussion and have received a bounced email due to someones filter. I presume everyone else on the list received one likewise. I gave up on filters because they create more problems than they solve. Jackie Perkins -----Original Message----- From: John Burchard [mailto:saluqi@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:41 AM To: Applied ethology list Subject: Re: elephant nose fish I received the following message from "Confirmation from mary doran " > The message that you sent to me (mary doran) has not yet been delivered: > > From: saluqi@ix.netcom.com > Subject: elephant nose fish > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:09:24 -0800 > > I am now using Vanquish to avoid spam. This automated message > is an optional feature of that service, which I have enabled. > > Please accept this one-time request to confirm that the above > message actually came from you. Your confirmation will release > the message and allow all future messages from your address. > > Click here to confirm: > http://confirm.vanquish.com/?U=4fYjtw6YjLUF8Aid75QY7w > > Vanquish respects my privacy and yours. Your confirmation > gets your mail delivered to me now and in the future. It > does not serve any marketing purpose. Learn how privacy is > assured: www.vanquish.com/privacy I do not think it is incumbent upon me, as a subscriber to a public mailing list, to seek permission from every other individual subscriber for them to receive messages I send to the list. Or to put it more bluntly, I don't think it is my obligation to fix someone else's incorrectly configured spam filter by going to a commercial Web site. This is not an isolated occurrence. I have received similar requests from the spam filters of several other list subscribers. Since I refuse on principle to "clear" my messages, if sent to a public list, through someone else's spam filter, I am probably on the auto-delete list of several subscribers - and probably without their knowledge. It happens that some of those whose spam filters have blocked my list messages are among those whose contributions to this list I consider especially valuable and interesting. That does not change my opinion that it is not my job to fix the problem. I am as troubled as anyone else by the spam phenomenon. Unfortunately, the "state of the art" of spam filtering is fairly primitive, as this event reveals. The present generation of spam filters may create more problems than it solves. I suspect, however, that putting any mailing list to which you subscribe on the "white list" of your spam filter would avoid nearly all occurrences such as this one to which I am responding. If you are going to subscribe to a mailing list, and use a spam filter, it is IMO incumbent upon you (and nobody else) to make sure that messages from that list will be passed by the spam filter, without requesting confirmation from the other individual list subscribers. I receive a message similar to the above, from Mary Doran's spam filter, in response to every message I post to the Applied Ethology list. In the recent past I have received similar messages from the spam filters of several other list subscribers. I presume (not having heard further from those spam filters) that I am now on the auto-delete list of those subscribers. I further presume that was not actually their intention, and that they may not even know about it. I hasten to add that I have no objection to "clearing" messages I send privately, though that necessity still reveals weaknesses in the current generation of spam filters. I have a carefully chosen system of firewall, antivirus software and spyware detectors in place to protect my system. To date it has functioned 100%. I still prefer, however, to delete manually the numerous spam messages I receive each day (most of them easily recognizable for what they are) rather than install a quirky and unreliable spam filtering system. John -- Dr. John Burchard Tepe Gawra Salukis http://saluqi.home.netcom.com/ saluqi@ix.netcom.com From: IN%"jlanier@hsus.org" "Jennifer Lanier" 24-FEB-2005 04:41:57.62 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca", IN%"ISAEnet-l@usask.ca" CC: Subj: ISAE travel awards Final notice: The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) recognizes the importance of graduate student research in improving the welfare of farm animals. Therefore, we wish to award one or more applicants financial assistance for attendance and presentation of their research at the 39th International Congress of the International Society for Applied Ethology, which will be held August 20-24, 2004 in Sagamihara, Japan. We regret that this year we are unable to provide funding to students studying outside of the USA or those who have previously received this award. We plan to provide partial or full funding for one or more graduate students from the United States of America to present their research at the Congress. Selection will be based on financial need and the potential impact of the students' research toward improving farm animal welfare. The HSUS Graduate Student Travel Awards were developed with the following objectives: * To raise the profile of farm animal welfare as a discipline in animal/veterinary science colleges. * To encourage students to investigate farm animal welfare issues. * To provide students with the opportunity to attend the ISAE meeting, where they will meet with, and learn from, others working in this discipline. * To draw attention to particular issues affecting farm animal welfare. * To provide additional opportunity for exciting and innovate welfare research to be presented to the scientific community. The following items are necessary for your application to be considered: 1. Your name, contact information, USA academic institution, level of study, and the name of your major advisor. 2. An abstract of your research, which you would present at the International Congress. Travel awards are contingent on the acceptance of your abstract by the ISAE committee. Application for this travel award does not suggest that ISAE has received or will accept your abstract. Please visit www.ics-inc.co.jp/isae2005/ for information on submitting abstracts to ISAE. 3. Status of your abstract acceptance by the ISAE committee (e.g. accepted, in review). 4. Itemized list of travel expenses in US currency. 5. Letter of recommendation from your major advisor indicating why you should be selected to receive this award. 6. A letter from you indicating your interest in animal welfare, relevance of your research to the advancement of animal welfare, financial need, and why it is important for you to attend this conference. Note: Please include your name on all pages and (or) attachments. Deadline: Completed applications must be received by 15 March 2005. Applications are accepted via e-mail. Please send the application to the following address. I look forward to hearing from you. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Jennifer Jennifer L. Lanier, Ph.D. Director of Scientific Programs Farm Animals and Sustainable Agriculture The Humane Society of the United States 2100 L. Street NW Washington, D.C. 20037 (301) 548 7787 (301) 258 3081 Fax jlanier@hsus.org www.hsus.org