From: IN%"logman@globalnet.co.uk" "GUY STOCKDALE" 16-JAN-2000 14:51:58.07 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Canine Predatory Behaviour Could anyone advise me where I could find any papers (or anything!) = written on canine predatory behaviour. I specialise in the = rehabilitation of anti-social behavioural problems in dogs. There is = often a predatory element in the aggression cases I see. I understand = that predatory behaviour in itself is not aggressive. However, I feel = the more I can learn about this basic instinct the easier my job would = be in a some cases! =20 I was lucky enough to closely with Robin Walker and so understand (in = lay terms!) the release of pleasure chemicals in the brain when the = eye/stalk - chase - kill sequence is started. In my understanding some = (if not all?) dogs 'get a buzz' purely by 'eyeing' which is why trying = to find a reward of equal value is proving to be almost impossible in = some cases. I am not an academic person. I have many years practical experience and = favour control and management when addressing Stock Chasing problems. I = progress onto teaching the dog to respond to enviromental cues which, I = must admit, has proved to be highly successful. But I want to know = MORE!! Any ideas? Many thanks Angela Stockdale The Dog Partnership Hoe Farm Wheddon Cross Minehead Somerset TA24 7EY From: IN%"m.dierendonck@capitolonline.nl" "Machteld van Dierendonck" 17-JAN-2000 07:14:13.76 To: IN%"chris.gotman@sympatico.ca" "'chris.gotman@sympatico.ca'", IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "'applied-ethology@skyway.usask.ca'" CC: Subj: RE: [Appl. Ethology] Possibly Psychotic Zebra Hello, To me it sounds that the zebra has not learned how to behave as a young = stallion bachelor. Especially all young stallions of socially living = equids need a to learn to dominate and specially to be dominated before = the get their own harem. The best way to learn this is to live in a = bachelor group of mixed ages. Incorrect weaning can also cause = behavioural problems. Of course they are also different personalities so = one is more sensitive to weaning and this learning process than an = other.=20 I agree with Hans that on top it seems he also developed stereotypes = from a frustrations because of an unsuitable management for him. He has = not learned to channel his energy and has not developed a normal = behavioural repertoire.=20 I sometimes see it with Przewalski horse stallions that they get very = aggressive. In their case there is also a known inherited factor in some = horses, and it mostly is against their male off spring.. Because he is already 5 and is over his sensitive learning period, it = will not be easy to modify his behaviour. I know it is not an option = now, but the best thing would probably be castrating him and do than = some behaviour modifications. The second best is to give him a large = pen, and more zebra/equid company. This has to be done very carefully.=20 Try to do some behaviour modifications in such a way he is awarded for = good behaviour and his energy is spend on somewhere else. You could try = using a equi foodball feeder, a big "ball" with a little hole filled = with foodpellets (you can also use grass pellets). Horses have to push = it around and small amounts of pellets roll out and it will keep them = occupied for a long time. You can also not rule out he has a serious steroid hormone problem, or = possibly a brain tumour. I hope this gives some suggestions Machteld Drs. Machteld van Dierendonck, EurBiol Equid ethologist FIRE The Netherlands Tel & Fax (phone first) +31-35-52.52.728 Email m.dierendonck@capitolonline.nl -----Original Message----- From: chris gotman [SMTP:chris.gotman@sympatico.ca] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:14 AM To: Applied Ethology Subject: [Appl. Ethology] Possibly Psychotic Zebra Hello, If any of you can help, either by recommending appropriate drug therapy or any other means of behaviour modification, short of castration, my collegue at the Washington Park Zoo would really appreciate it. You may mail directly to me if you prefer at chris.gotman@sympatico.ca , but please, by no means feel obliged to do so as I am subscribed to the list. I would be interested in hearing similar case histories involving horses of any species, and their outcomes. Knowledge is power, and discussion reveals new possibilities! Here is what my collegue has told me so far: <> << We have this guy on calm-X after he bit me and then pulled a keeper off a fence last week. We have gotten so desperate that we have even tried herbal remedies and an Animal communicator. We are worried that he will harm himself and then worried he will injure a staff member. We are also modifying some fences that have been fine for years but that he has discovered that he can just reach over enough to grab someone if they are in a compromised position. (That's how the last incidents happened.) This guy has had the best of everything, caring keepers, enrichment toys, etc. but something is obviously wrong and we are at a loss to figure out what.>> sincerely, Chris Gotman Granby Zoo Quebec, Canada mailto:chris.gotman@sympatico.ca From: IN%"Kevin.Oates@clarica.com" 17-JAN-2000 08:11:36.23 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Canine-Human Bond/Relationship Hello everyone, Could someone post info or point me to some info relating to the canine to human relationship? Thanks KO From: IN%"Francien.deJonge@Users.ECO.WAU.NL" 31-JAN-2000 05:20:57.61 To: IN%"applied-ethology-error@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: looking for a post-doc position Beste Joop Lensink, Het lijkt er op dat je erg interessant werk hebt gedaan. Ik heb nu zeker geen baan voor je,maar we hebben een aanvraag lopen die erg in de richting van jouw werk gaat. Het lijkt er op, dat we die aanvraag wel eens gehonoreerd zouden kunnen krijgen. Ik houd jouw dan in het achterhoofd. Helaas kan ik nu hier verder nog niets over zeggen. Ik heb je adres in ieder geval genoteerd. Is je proefschrift in het Engels geschreven? En heb je misschien wat overdrukjes van je artikelen? Dat zou ik zeer op prijs stellen, met hartelijke groet, Francien de Jonge Francien de Jonge department of organic agriculture and society Haarweg 333 6709RZ Wageningen The Netherlands tel: 0031(0)317484448 fax: 0031(0)317484995 e-mail: francien.deJonge@users.eco.wau.nl