From: IN%"heath@vetethol.demon.co.uk" "Sarah Heath" 16-JAN-2006 07:03:29.17 To: IN%"esvceforum@esvce.org", IN%"apbc4_um@apbc.org.uk", IN%"avsab@yahoogroups.com", IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: CABTSG Study Day CABTSG STUDY DAY THE COUNCIL HOUSE, BIRMINGHAM UK Wednesday 19th April 2006. =20 CALL FOR PAPERS =20 THEME: " Natural Behaviour =96 Its Influence on behaviour problems" =20 A one-day behaviour meeting will be held on Wednesday 19th April at the Council House Birmingham. The theme for the day will be " Natural = Behaviour =96 its influence on behaviour problems=94. =20 There will be two sessions for submitted papers and each will consist of four 15-minute (10 min talk +5min question time) papers. The first = session will consist of papers on the meeting theme " Natural behaviours =96 = influence on behaviour problems " while the second session will consist of free communications relating to any aspect of companion animal behaviour = practice or research. =20 If you wish to submit an abstract for consideration for a paper or = poster in either of the short paper sessions please do so according to the = following instructions: =20 * All abstracts must be in English. * All abstracts must be no longer than 1 standard manuscript page (A-4 or 8.5 x 11 inches). * All abstracts must use font no smaller than 12 point. * All abstracts MUST include the following information on a = separate cover page for the abstract: * All author=92s names * Full addresses of all authors * Full telephone numbers of all authors * Full fax numbers of all authors=20 * Full e-mail addresses of all authors * Title presentation * Source of funding, if any, for study =20 * Information on preferred session: * Themed session - " Natural behaviours =96 its influence on = behaviour problems=94 * Free communications =20 * Information on preferred format: * Presented paper=20 * Poster=20 * Either =20 * 3 hard copies must be faxed, mailed, or sent as an e-mail = attached document no later than Wednesday 15th February * No abstracts in other formats will be accepted. * No anonymous abstracts will be accepted. * Participants will be notified as soon as possible of the selections. * Manuscripts will then be due no later than 22nd March 2006. = Details will be included with notification.=20 =20 Applicants whose abstracts are selected for talks or posters will = receive complimentary registration to the 2006 Study Day. Other registrants = will be able to attend this meeting for a fee that covers the cost of = attendance, coffee and tea breaks and lunch.=20 =20 Fees for the Study day are as follows: =20 Cost:=20 Members of CABTSG or ESVCE =A375.00 VN (qualified) members of CABTSG or ESVCE =A360.00 Non-Members =A395.00 Full time students and VN students = =A325.00 - there are a limited number of student places =96 they are available on a = first come first served basis on production of evidence from the educational institution =20 Send abstracts to: =20 S. der Weduwen 32 Blackburn Road Rishton Blackburn BB1 4BS From: IN%"heath@vetethol.demon.co.uk" "Sarah Heath" 22-JAN-2006 05:30:46.52 To: IN%"cabtsgforum@cabtsg.org", IN%"apbc4_um@apbc.org.uk", IN%"esvceforum@esvce.org", IN%"avsab@yahoogroups.com", IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Four days of behaviour meetings in Belgium 21-24 September 2006 Dear All Further to the recent calls for papers that have been sent out for the ESVCE, ECVBM-CA and VDWE meetings which are being held in conjunction in September 2006 at the Unviersity of Ghent in Belgium I just wanted to inform you all that more information is available on a special website www.behaviour2006gent.be as well as at the websites of the individual organizations. We hope to see many of you in Belgium in September. Best wishes Sarah Heath Behavioural Referrals Veterinary Practice 11 Cotebrook Drive Upton Chester CH2 1RA England Tel: 00 44 1244 377365 Fax: 00 44 1244 399228 For general enquiries Email: admin@vetethol.demon.co.uk To contact Sarah directly Email: heath@vetethol.demon.co.uk From: IN%"dmills@lincoln.ac.uk" "Daniel Mills" 23-JAN-2006 06:49:39.38 To: IN%"avsab@yahoogroups.com", IN%"cabtsgforum@cabtsg.org", IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Noise fear survey - update Dear all I would like to thank everyone who has helped with our online survey into noise fears in dogs so far, which is still accessible at: http://hemswell.lincoln.ac.uk/~slawson/dogs_and_noise/  We have had over 2500 respondents so far. Understandably most of these have come from owners with dogs that are fearful, but one of our aims is to undertake a case control study with carefully matched controls and so we would appreciate any support people may be able to provide in encouraging owners of NON-FEARFUL dogs to complete the questionnaire. (at present we have managed to match approximately one hundred according to our criteria). Please feel free to pass on this e-mail to anyone or any group that might be able to help. I am sure we will have a lot greater understanding of this problem as a result of everyone's generosity in helping us. I should also emphasise that the case control is not the only analysis being done, and so other information will not be going to waste. Thank you once again Daniel Daniel S. Mills BVSc PhD ILTM CBiol MIBiol MRCVS Professor & RCVS Recognised Specialist in Veterinary Behavioural Medicine Animal Behaviour, Cognition & Welfare Group University of Lincoln, Dept of Biological Sciences, Riseholme Park, Lincoln, U.K. LN2 2LG tel 44 (0)1522 895356 email dmills@lincoln.ac.uk web page: http://www.lincoln.ac.uk/dbs/staff/479.asp From: IN%"jlanier@hsus.org" "Jennifer Lanier" 24-JAN-2006 06:46:36.50 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: ISAE 2006 Travel Award Announcement Hi all, It's that time of year again! I am no longer running the awards, but am sending this announcement out on behalf of my colleague. Hope many of you apply for this award. Jennifer Lanier For the past six years, the Farm Animal Welfare section of the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) has provided financial assistance for graduate students to attend the ISAE International congress and present their research. We are pleased once again, to be able to offer this award. This year, HSUS will be accepting applications from students worldwide who have not been prior recipients of this travel grant. The HSUS will provide partial or full funding for one or more graduate students to present their research at the Congress in Bristol, UK. The HSUS Graduate Student Travel Awards were developed with the following objectives: * To raise the profile of farm animal welfare as a discipline in animal/veterinary science colleges. * To encourage students to investigate farm animal welfare issues. * To provide students with the opportunity to attend the ISAE meeting, where they will meet with and learn from others working in this discipline. * To draw attention to particular issues affecting farm animal welfare. * To provide additional opportunity for exciting and innovating welfare research to be presented to the scientific community. The following items are necessary for your application to be considered: 1. Your name, contact information, academic institution, level of study, and the name of your major advisor. 2. An abstract of your research, which you would present at the International Congress. Travel awards are contingent on the acceptance of your abstract by the ISAE committee. Application for this travel award does not suggest that ISAE has received or will accept your abstract. Please visit www.isae2006.co.uk for information on submitting abstracts to ISAE. 3. Status of your abstract acceptance by the ISAE committee (e.g. accepted, in review) 4. Itemized list of travel expenses in US currency. 5. Letter of recommendation from your major advisor indicating why you should be selected to receive this award. 6. A letter from you indicating your interest in animal welfare, relevance of your research to the advancement of animal welfare, financial need, and why it is important for you to attend this conference. Note: Please include your name on all pages and (or) attachments. Completed application must be received by 3 March 2006, which is two weeks after the ISAE abstract deadline on 17 February 2006. Our applications are accepted via e-mail. Please send the application to the following address. I look forward to receiving your application. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Paul Petersan Researcher, Farm Animal Welfare The Humane Society of the United States 2100 L St., N.W. Washington, DC 20037 direct line: 301-258-3028 fax: 301-258-3081 papetersan@hsus.org Interested in taking action online to help animals? Then join our online community and sign up for our Humane Action Network. Go to www.hsus.org/join . From: IN%"joseph.stookey@usask.ca" "Joseph Stookey" 24-JAN-2006 12:11:09.81 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca", IN%"jon.watts@usask.ca" "Watts, Jon", IN%"lda167@mail.usask.ca" "Ames, Lauren", IN%"tfa093@mail.usask.ca" "Avey, Tom", IN%"nab731@mail.usask.ca" "Bernadet, Nathan", IN%"cab450@mail.usask.ca" "Biederbeck, Christ CC: Subj: Applied Ethology Poetry Hi Everyone, Two recent events in my life have made me reflect upon the idea that we should spread our messages further and we should have some Applied Ethology Poetry! 1) My brother gave me a cowboy poety book by Baxter Black for Christmas and I have enjoyed the humor and shed a tear or two reading his poems. He has great stories, lessons and knowledge about cowboy life. I thought, "Hey we should have some Applied Ethology poetry too! 2) This week the same brother sent me an article from the St. Louis Post Dispatch newspaper regarding a local dairy producer (known by some of my family) who was killed by his bull. The man was only 39 and had a wife and 5 young sons. The 11 year old "rescued" his father from the bull using the tractor and bucket, but his father died in the hospital. It is a heart wrenching story and it is unfortunate that as applied ethologists and educators we haven't spread the word as much as we should have, warning the public of these dangers. The dangers being that hand reared males imprint onto humans and become dangerous as adults. The danger is not about dairy genetics, it has more to do with hand rearing in isolation. In the past I have sent some popular press articles about these dangers to some of the US and Canadian livestock magazines, but sadly I never reached some of the producers that needed to hear the message. Anyway, I thought we could solict poems written by applied ethologists, students, profs, etc. that have some connection to animal behaviour. It doesn't have to be a lesson as such, it could be funny if you want, but just something about animal behaviour. Maybe we can teach something about animal behaviour in our poems. If you want to send poems to me we will put them on a special Applied Ethology Poetry Page web page, with your name included. I also attached, to this message, an article I wrote regarding the dangers of bottle raising or hand rearing male orphans. Please feel free to rewrite it, edit it and send it to your favorite magazine. You can put your name on the article for all I care, I just want you to help spread the word. Cheers, Joe ---------------------------------------------------- "Spread the Word" by J.M. Stookey A simple message to remember, "Don't feed that calf by hand" Especially if he has testicles, keep mother in the plan. Cute calves eventually grow up and their gentle rubs turn hard It is better to keep yourself alive and turn hand reared pets to lard! It's all about imprinting as their animal minds go awry, They'll likely forsake their own kind just to squeeze you til ya cry. You become the competition, you'll appear as a sexy mate. Imprinted males leave their conspecifics, just to smear you into the gate. It is true that condors do it and so do whopping cranes. I even heard turkeys do it and likely the Great Danes! Elk and bison, deer and llammas, no species is immune, Little rams, (though probably not clams) are destined for such ruin. They'll be confused about their species, if you become the mother, It is more than just embarrassing when they make you as their lover. It is okay to raise the orphan male and save it from certain death, Just beware the clock is ticking and testosterone never rests. It is the hormone of desire and builds muscles on neck and crest, So just cut off those damn testicles and you'll get a safe goodnight's rest. If you think you really ought to, just raise another dairy bull And his mother's doing parlor duty, no teats for him to pull, Then raise him in a group of calves or find a nanny cow, At least he'll think he's bovine blood and you'll remain safe for now. This message comes too late for some, injuries and blood has spilled All because mother nature has some lessons that remain concealed. But heed my warning, take special care, ethologists need to be heard! Imprinting's real and can be a dangerous event. Please! Spread the word. -- Joseph M. Stookey Professor of Applied Ethology Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences Western College of Veterinary Medicine 52 Campus Dr University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, SK Canada S7N 5B4 From: IN%"brucef@peta.org" "Bruce Friedrich" 24-JAN-2006 15:35:36.35 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Chicago Sun-Times, looking for researcher studying fish cognition, someplace in Illinois. Please let me know if you know of anyone. He's doing a story on this (general issue of fish intelligence): http://fishinghurts.com/feat-hiddenfish.asp And this (guy who is training goldfish to perform tricks): http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06024/643104.stm Thanks. From: IN%"kmorgan@wheatonma.edu" "Kathy Morgan" 24-JAN-2006 15:42:13.36 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: Applied Ethology Poetry An excellent but now out-of-print book of nature-related poetry (much of which has to do with animal behavior) is _Biograffiti: A natural selection_ by John McLauren Burns (Publisher Quadrangle/The New York Times Book Co., 1975; ISBN: 0812905865). Most of these are hilarious, too. And all are educational in one way or another. One that I remember offhand (because it is only two lines) is called "To a Lonely Hermaphrodite" The rest of the poem is only two words: "Know thyself." --Kathy Morgan Wheaton College Norton, MA 02766 U.S.A. kmorgan@wheatonma.edu From: IN%"brucef@peta.org" "Bruce Friedrich" 24-JAN-2006 16:02:00.46 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Chicago Sun-Times, looking for researcher studying fish cognition, someplace in Illinois. Please let me know if you know of anyone. He's doing a story on this (general issue of fish intelligence): http://fishinghurts.com/feat-hiddenfish.asp And this (guy who is training goldfish to perform tricks): http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06024/643104.stm Thanks. From: IN%"joseph.stookey@usask.ca" "Joseph Stookey" 24-JAN-2006 16:04:16.68 To: IN%"applied-ethology@usask.ca" CC: Subj: What is a subjective measure? Hi Everyone, Anna Olsson tried sending this message to applied-ethology and it keeps bouncing back to her. She is subscribed to the list, but for some reason can not post a message. Is anyone else having this problem? Contact me directly if that is your experience too. Please respond to Anna's question directly to her or to applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca Thanks, Joe *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 23-01-2006 at 13:39 Anna Olsson wrote: From: Anna Olsson To: applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:39:50 +0000 Subject: what is a subjective measure?? >For crying out loud - why is behaviour considered a subjective measure of >welfare?? For the second time in a few months, intelligent, serious >persons in my surroundings have used the description "subjective" when >talking about behaviour as a measure of welfare. They are both >veterinarians and not ethologists but seriously interested in animal >welfare. > >Are we ethologists doing a bad job in describing the use of behaviour as a >welfare measure? Is this a vet-specific view (with due apology to all vets >on this list), or am I extrapolating wildly from a sample of 2 without >control? Or are they right - IS behaviour a subjective measure? > >I'm not quite sure what aspect is supposed to be subjective. If analysing >behaviour is considered to be the same as watching the animal for a while >and judge whether it's happy, I agree that this seems to be a subjective >measure (although see multiple papers by Francoise Wemelsfelder for >attempts to translate this into a standardized method) - and here we seem >to face a communication problem: this person has not understood the >methodology of ethology observations. If it is not the measure per se, but >the choice of behaviour as a welfare measure that is considered >subjective, the question seems to be at a deeper level. What then can >OBJECTIVELY be considered a good measure of welfare? > >Very much looking forward to your input on this! >Regards, >Anna > > *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** Dr Anna Olsson Researcher Laboratory Animal Science group http://www.ibmc.up.pt/group.php?area=4&grupo=18 Institute for Molecular and Cell Biology - IBMC Rua Campo Alegre 823 4150-180 Porto, Portugal Phone +351 22 607 4900 Fax +351 22 6099157 -- Joseph M. Stookey Professor of Applied Ethology Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences Western College of Veterinary Medicine 52 Campus Dr University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, SK Canada S7N 5B4 From: IN%"marcosgz@gmail.com" "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marcos_Gim=E9nez_Zapiola?=" 24-JAN-2006 16:12:10.77 To: IN%"joseph.stookey@usask.ca" "Joseph Stookey" CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca", IN%"jon.watts@usask.ca" "Watts, Jon", IN%"lda167@mail.usask.ca" "Ames, Lauren", IN%"tfa093@mail.usask.ca" "Avey, Tom", IN%"nab731@mail.usask.ca" "Bernadet, Nathan", IN%"cab450@mail.usask.ca" "Biederbeck, Christ Subj: RE: Applied Ethology Poetry Joe, My view is that this kind of animal (e.g., the bull that killed Matt Hilmes= ) is dangerous because of its rearing, but more so because usually it's kept isolated. Herd animals become unpredictable when isolated from their companions; this is something any observant cattleperson knows from experience. Bulls are more personal individuals, and I never would handle one of them separated from his peers (except in the chute, where its abilit= y to harm humans is very limited). I guess this could be tested. On the one hand, male orphans' aggresiveness = ( e.g., Holstein bulls) could be measured in isolation and in groups. On the other hand, the same measurement could be done with range bulls kept in groups or isolated from their peers. I'm sure that the results could be quite surprising. Maybe poor Holstein bulls might get a better review, and also forgive us for so many unnatural things we do to them. Regards, Marcos Gim=E9nez-Zapiola On 1/24/06, Joseph Stookey wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Two recent events in my life have made me reflect upon the idea that we > should spread our messages further and we should have some Applied > Ethology Poetry! > > 1) My brother gave me a cowboy poety book by Baxter Black for Christmas > and I have enjoyed the humor and shed a tear or two reading his poems. > He has great stories, lessons and knowledge about cowboy life. I > thought, "Hey we should have some Applied Ethology poetry too! > 2) This week the same brother sent me an article from the St. Louis Post > Dispatch newspaper regarding a local dairy producer (known by some of my > family) who was killed by his bull. The man was only 39 and had a wife > and 5 young sons. The 11 year old "rescued" his father from the bull > using the tractor and bucket, but his father died in the hospital. It > is a heart wrenching story and it is unfortunate that as applied > ethologists and educators we haven't spread the word as much as we > should have, warning the public of these dangers. The dangers being > that hand reared males imprint onto humans and become dangerous as > adults. The danger is not about dairy genetics, it has more to do with > hand rearing in isolation. In the past I have sent some popular press > articles about these dangers to some of the US and Canadian livestock > magazines, but sadly I never reached some of the producers that needed > to hear the message. > > Anyway, I thought we could solict poems written by applied ethologists, > students, profs, etc. that have some connection to animal behaviour. It > doesn't have to be a lesson as such, it could be funny if you want, but > just something about animal behaviour. Maybe we can teach something > about animal behaviour in our poems. If you want to send poems to me we > will put them on a special Applied Ethology Poetry Page web page, with > your name included. I also attached, to this message, an article I > wrote regarding the dangers of bottle raising or hand rearing male > orphans. Please feel free to rewrite it, edit it and send it to your > favorite magazine. You can put your name on the article for all I care, > I just want you to help spread the word. > > Cheers, > > Joe > ---------------------------------------------------- > "Spread the Word" by J.M. Stookey > > A simple message to remember, "Don't feed that calf by hand" > Especially if he has testicles, keep mother in the plan. > Cute calves eventually grow up and their gentle rubs turn hard > It is better to keep yourself alive and turn hand reared pets to lard! > > It's all about imprinting as their animal minds go awry, > They'll likely forsake their own kind just to squeeze you til ya cry. > You become the competition, you'll appear as a sexy mate. > Imprinted males leave their conspecifics, just to smear you into the > gate. > > It is true that condors do it and so do whopping cranes. > I even heard turkeys do it and likely the Great Danes! > Elk and bison, deer and llammas, no species is immune, > Little rams, (though probably not clams) are destined for such ruin. > They'll be confused about their species, if you become the mother, > It is more than just embarrassing when they make you as their lover. > > It is okay to raise the orphan male and save it from certain death, > Just beware the clock is ticking and testosterone never rests. > It is the hormone of desire and builds muscles on neck and crest, > So just cut off those damn testicles and you'll get a safe goodnight's > rest. > > If you think you really ought to, just raise another dairy bull > And his mother's doing parlor duty, no teats for him to pull, > Then raise him in a group of calves or find a nanny cow, > At least he'll think he's bovine blood and you'll remain safe for now. > > This message comes too late for some, injuries and blood has spilled > All because mother nature has some lessons that remain concealed. > But heed my warning, take special care, ethologists need to be heard! > Imprinting's real and can be a dangerous event. Please! Spread the word. > > > > -- > Joseph M. Stookey > Professor of Applied Ethology > Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences > Western College of Veterinary Medicine > 52 Campus Dr > University of Saskatchewan > Saskatoon, SK Canada > S7N 5B4 From: IN%"brucef@peta.org" "Bruce Friedrich" 24-JAN-2006 16:20:34.18 To: IN%"marcosgz@gmail.com" "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marcos_Gim=E9nez_Zapiola?=", IN%"joseph.stookey@usask.ca" "Joseph Stookey" CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca", IN%"jon.watts@usask.ca" "Watts, Jon", IN%"lda167@mail.usask.ca" "Ames, Lauren", IN%"tfa093@mail.usask.ca" "Avey, Tom", IN%"nab731@mail.usask.ca" "Bernadet, Nathan", IN%"cab450@mail.usask.ca" "Biederbeck, Christ Subj: RE: Applied Ethology Poetry Dr. Temple Grandin discusses this very point, both re: bulls and = stallions, in her wonderful book, Animals in Translation. Anyone on the = list who has not read it should do so as soon as they can. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Joe, My view is that this kind of animal (e.g., the bull that killed Matt = Hilmes) is dangerous because of its rearing, but more so because usually = it's kept isolated. Herd animals become unpredictable when isolated from = their companions; this is something any observant cattleperson knows = from experience. Bulls are more personal individuals, and I never would = handle one of them separated from his peers (except in the chute, where = its ability to harm humans is very limited).=20 I guess this could be tested. On the one hand, male orphans' = aggresiveness (e.g., Holstein bulls) could be measured in isolation and = in groups. On the other hand, the same measurement could be done with = range bulls kept in groups or isolated from their peers. I'm sure that = the results could be quite surprising. Maybe poor Holstein bulls might = get a better review, and also forgive us for so many unnatural things we = do to them.=20 Regards, Marcos Gim=E9nez-Zapiola =20 =20 On 1/24/06, Joseph Stookey wrote:=20 Hi Everyone, Two recent events in my life have made me reflect upon the idea that we should spread our messages further and we should have some Applied=20 Ethology Poetry! 1) My brother gave me a cowboy poety book by Baxter Black for Christmas and I have enjoyed the humor and shed a tear or two reading his poems. He has great stories, lessons and knowledge about cowboy life. I=20 thought, "Hey we should have some Applied Ethology poetry too! 2) This week the same brother sent me an article from the St. Louis Post Dispatch newspaper regarding a local dairy producer (known by some of my = family) who was killed by his bull. The man was only 39 and had a wife and 5 young sons. The 11 year old "rescued" his father from the bull using the tractor and bucket, but his father died in the hospital. It=20 is a heart wrenching story and it is unfortunate that as applied ethologists and educators we haven't spread the word as much as we should have, warning the public of these dangers. The dangers being that hand reared males imprint onto humans and become dangerous as=20 adults. The danger is not about dairy genetics, it has more to do with hand rearing in isolation. In the past I have sent some popular press articles about these dangers to some of the US and Canadian livestock=20 magazines, but sadly I never reached some of the producers that needed to hear the message. Anyway, I thought we could solict poems written by applied ethologists, students, profs, etc. that have some connection to animal behaviour. It = doesn't have to be a lesson as such, it could be funny if you want, but just something about animal behaviour. Maybe we can teach something about animal behaviour in our poems. If you want to send poems to me we = will put them on a special Applied Ethology Poetry Page web page, with your name included. I also attached, to this message, an article I wrote regarding the dangers of bottle raising or hand rearing male orphans. Please feel free to rewrite it, edit it and send it to your=20 favorite magazine. You can put your name on the article for all I care, I just want you to help spread the word. Cheers, Joe ---------------------------------------------------- "Spread the Word" by J.M. Stookey A simple message to remember, "Don't feed that calf by hand" Especially if he has testicles, keep mother in the plan. Cute calves eventually grow up and their gentle rubs turn hard It is better to keep yourself alive and turn hand reared pets to lard!=20 It's all about imprinting as their animal minds go awry, They'll likely forsake their own kind just to squeeze you til ya cry. You become the competition, you'll appear as a sexy mate. Imprinted males leave their conspecifics, just to smear you into the=20 gate. It is true that condors do it and so do whopping cranes. I even heard turkeys do it and likely the Great Danes! Elk and bison, deer and llammas, no species is immune, Little rams, (though probably not clams) are destined for such ruin.=20 They'll be confused about their species, if you become the mother, It is more than just embarrassing when they make you as their lover. It is okay to raise the orphan male and save it from certain death, Just beware the clock is ticking and testosterone never rests. It is the hormone of desire and builds muscles on neck and crest, So just cut off those damn testicles and you'll get a safe goodnight's rest. If you think you really ought to, just raise another dairy bull And his mother's doing parlor duty, no teats for him to pull, Then raise him in a group of calves or find a nanny cow, At least he'll think he's bovine blood and you'll remain safe for now.=20 This message comes too late for some, injuries and blood has spilled All because mother nature has some lessons that remain concealed. But heed my warning, take special care, ethologists need to be heard! Imprinting's real and can be a dangerous event. Please! Spread the word. -- Joseph M. Stookey Professor of Applied Ethology Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences Western College of Veterinary Medicine=20 52 Campus Dr University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, SK Canada S7N 5B4 From: IN%"joseph.stookey@usask.ca" "Joseph Stookey" 24-JAN-2006 16:42:32.81 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Message to Anna Olsson and PK Shader HI, Sorry to send this message to everyone, but this is the only way I know how to contact Anna O. and PKS. Apparently I can not send a message to either of you, even though you are subscribed to Applied-ethology and even though you are getting messages from applied ethology list server. When I send a message to either of you using the addresses that you apparently used to send a message to me, I end up getting a bounced message back. Anna, your institution writes back saying their is no such user (as you) at their place! PK, messages I have tried to send to you just bounce back to me. I am sorry to have to send this message to you so publicly, but I think you guys need to check on your end to find out what the problem may be. Basically, I have looked into problems with both of your addresses, but it seems to be blocked at your end. Sorry, Joe -- Joseph M. Stookey Professor of Applied Ethology Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences Western College of Veterinary Medicine 52 Campus Dr University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, SK Canada S7N 5B4 From: IN%"GGolab@avma.org" "Dr. Gail Golab" 24-JAN-2006 18:02:23.11 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Call for Nominations for 2006 AVMA Animal Welfare Award and Bustad Companion Animal Veterinarian of the Year CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR ANIMAL WELFARE AND HUMAN-ANIMAL BOND AWARDS It's my sincere pleasure to let you know that calls for nominations for two 2006 American Veterinary Medical Association Awards have been issued. The Animal Welfare Award is given annually to an AVMA member who has advanced animal well-being, shown exemplary dedication to animal care, and contributed to the community and society. Deadline for receipt of nominations is March 10, 2006. The Bustad Companion Animal Veterinarian of the Year Award is given annually to an AVMA member for outstanding work in preserving and protecting human-animal relationships. This award is co-sponsored by the AVMA, Delta Society and Hill's Pet Nutrition. Deadline for nominations for this award is March 15, 2006. For additional information about each of these awards and nomination forms, please visit the following Web page: http://www.avma.org/awards/ Please also note that these are two different awards...one is for work in animal welfare and the other is for work in the area of the human-animal bond. Each award comes with a slightly different expected set of contributions. We'd love to receive lots of very qualified nominations for these awards and I hope you will think about nominating a deserving veterinarian. Thank you all for your consideration, and I look forward to reading some very special nominations! If you have questions after reviewing the related information, please don't hesitate to ask. You can direct inquiries to me at ggolab@avma.org. Gail Gail C. Golab, PhD, DVM Assistant Director, Communications (Professional and Public Affairs) American Veterinary Medical Association From: IN%"MadEddie@aol.com" 25-JAN-2006 08:01:39.11 To: IN%"applied-ethology@usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: Chicago Sun-Times, looking for researcher studying fish cognition, somepl Hello Everyone, Not sure how many may be interested, but this one=20 is truly amazing---(if it is real) =20 _http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00943.wmv_=20 (http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00943.wmv)=20 =20 =20 Sue Kozoyed=20 ( who once trained a baby oscar to jump 1/2 " over the water through a hoop= !) =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 In a message dated 1/24/2006 4:04:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, =20 brucef@peta.org writes: Please let me know if you know of anyone.=20 He=E2=80=99s doing a story on this (general issue of fish intelligence):=20 _http://fishinghurts.com/feat-hiddenfish.asp_=20 (http://fishinghurts.com/feat-hiddenfish.asp) =20 And this (guy who is training goldfish to perform tricks):=20 _http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06024/643104.stm_=20 (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06024/643104.stm) =20 Thanks. From: IN%"Chris.Sherwin@bristol.ac.uk" "CM Sherwin, Animal Health and Husbandry" 25-JAN-2006 09:03:52.09 To: IN%"MadEddie@aol.com", IN%"applied-ethology@usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: Chicago Sun-Times, looking for researcher studying fish cognition, somepl Dear All, I also saw this video and was totally amazed. Does anyone have any information on whether this is a clever hoax or where the film originates from? Chris --On 25 January 2006 09:00 -0500 MadEddie@aol.com wrote: > http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00943.wmv ---------------------- Chris Sherwin Senior Research Fellow in Animal Behaviour and Welfare Division Clinical Veterinary Science University of Bristol Chris.Sherwin@bristol.ac.uk Phone 0117 928 9486 From: IN%"mara@animalbehaviourconsulting.com.au" "Mara Roberts" 27-JAN-2006 01:00:15.97 To: IN%"applied-ethology@usask.ca" CC: Subj: New topic: Dogs and dreaming Dear All I was posed an interesting question recently, to which I do not have an answer, nor have I come across any research on the topic. A friend has noticed that her dogs do not react at all when she has nightmares. Apparently she screams during her nightmares, but her 2 dogs (Golden Retrievers) who both sleep in the bedroom, remain in their beds and asleep. She thought it strange, since the dogs come close and lick her face, if she is upset or crying and would certainly at least look at her if she screamed when awake. This prompted me to ask around, and several others whose (various breeds) sleep in close vicinity to their owners reported similarly. In all cases the dogs came into the homes as puppies. My first question was how do these people know they are actually vocalising if they are asleep? But in all cases their spouses confirmed that they screamed quite loudly and had to be woken up. On a similar vein, I have noticed that when one of my own two dogs are apparently "dreaming"; that is, legs 'running' and making high pitched yipping noises whilst sound asleep, the other does not react at all, whereas during the day when one dog barks, the other usually at least runs over to see what is going on, and often joining in with the barking. Do dogs know when humans and other dogs are dreaming and consequently do not become aroused in response to stimuli that might normally elicit a response? I thought perhaps it may be a learning issue, where the dogs learn through repeated exposure that the screaming/yipping is nothing to 'worry' about. But in that case, why can't these same dogs learn through repeated exposure, that thunderstorms (or other problematic noises) are not a cause for concern? Or could it be that, coincidentally, the dogs are in a sleep spindle stage of their sleep, therefore having reduced capacity to recognise sensory input at the same time as the owner is having a nightmare? However, in this case the sleep cycles of both humans and dogs would have to be coordinated every night in order for the human to be in REM sleep and the dogs to be going through sleep spindles at exactly the same time. While I know the examples I've used are anecdotal and only a very small sample, I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts and perhaps some references if there is any research out there on this topic. Regards Mara Roberts From: IN%"Chris.Sherwin@bristol.ac.uk" "CM Sherwin, Animal Health and Husbandry" 31-JAN-2006 04:52:11.02 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: 40th ISAE International congress - call for abstracts Dear All, The University of Bristol is proud to be hosting the 40th ISAE International congress this year. We are organising an exciting programme of the best quality International research into applied ethology. For those who might not be familiar with ISAE, please look at their Home page. Then, please look at the conference website and consider submitting an abstract to this congress. Please note that the date for final submission of abstracts (Feb 17th) is fast approaching. If you are not a member of ISAE, please join soon as this will give you much cheaper registration. Chris Sherwin Chair Local Organising Committee ---------------------- Chris Sherwin Senior Research Fellow in Animal Behaviour and Welfare Division Clinical Veterinary Science University of Bristol Chris.Sherwin@bristol.ac.uk Phone 0117 928 9486