Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:09 PM
> I disagree. And will tell you why. I do use "drugs" in some cases, but the
> remedies I use are not regular medication, but Bach Flower Essences. My
> experience: the aid of mood-altering medicine, be it regular or
alternative,
> reduces the time the animal needs to adjust to the therapy, and therefore
> produces results more quickly. I have worked without any medical aid for a
> long time and had good results then as well, it just took longer.
hallo -
i think it's important to remember that homeopathic remedies and the Flower
Essences while in some instances now becoming preferred to other more
traditional methods, _still_ have an impact on the body and mind. no doubt
not only in the US, media reports of bad things happening from herbal
treatments when not properly or attentively administered or combined. and a
wrong remedy creates significiant discomfort, i've seen it first hand in
treatment of itch.
i've come to believe there's just as much possibility for ill to be done
under the words "holistic" and "natural" and "homeopathic" as from more
familiar, traditional methods.
respectfully,
margory
From: IN%"matchdog@chello.nl" "Bianca Uittenbogaard" 14-JUN-2000 11:22:50.94
To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca", IN%"margory@dnai.com" "margory cohen"
CC:
Subj: RE: Clomicalm research articles - rant alert
Hello Margory,
> i think it's important to remember that homeopathic remedies and the
Flower
> Essences while in some instances now becoming preferred to other more
> traditional methods, _still_ have an impact on the body and mind.
Of course they do, otherwise they wouldn't be used as medication. Please
keep in mind that I was referring to the Bach Flower Essences only. In my
humble opinion it is not right to throw homeopathic remedies, herbal
remedies and the flower essences on one big holistic heap. There's a
significant difference between them, both in how they work and their
possible side-effects.
> i've come to believe there's just as much possibility for ill to be done
> under the words "holistic" and "natural" and "homeopathic" as from more
> familiar, traditional methods.
Just as I mentioned before, don't throw it all onto one big heap. I wouldn't
advise anyone to use any kind of medication be it "alternative" or regular
without knowing perfectly well what they are doing.
Regards,
Bianca
Bianca Uittenbogaard
www.listen.to/click
matchdog@chello.nl
Success is a journey, not a destination
From: IN%"myriad@ksu.edu" "Jeanne Saddler" 14-JUN-2000 11:44:18.63
To: IN%"orion1432@juno.com" "D. B. Cameron"
CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Clomicalm research articles - rant alert
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, D. B. Cameron wrote:
> - The target use for drugs in these cases is to AID the B.M. therapy.
> This most often is a TEMPORARY period during which the patient learns a
> new way to think and feel. There are some behavior problems that must
> have drugs permanently, but these are the exceptions.
>
> - Without B.M. therapy to go with the drugs, the prognosis for most
> such problems is likely to be poor.
>
The problem is, that as trainers, we are seeing *way* too many cases of
Vets putting a dog on Clomicalm *without* any BM and in most cases not
even taking a good history. The owners find their way into training, not
as a result of a referral, but as a desperate attempt to find help when
the magic pill the Vet perscribed didn't do the job. In many cases the
owner isn't aware that the medication is not intended as a long-term
measure. While Novartis is clear on these points, many Vets simply are not
taking care of the BM part of the treatment program. To the arguement that
Vets aren't aware of acess to BM for their clients. The client was able to
find someone who could help, why didn't the Vet check for resources before
starting the Clomicalm?
H.U.G. Your dog!
Jeanne Saddler, myriad@ksu.edu (Manhattan Kansas)
From: IN%"mjt4567@acs.tamu.edu" "Michael Toscano" 14-JUN-2000 16:25:51.42
To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
CC: IN%"chn2675@unix.tamu.edu" "Heath Nevill"
Subj: observation software
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To all,
I believe this was discussed briefly last year, but could anyone
recommend software for collection and analysis of behavioral data from
video surveillance? The Observer by Noldus was recommended to me by a
friend and I was curious if anyone else had suggestions or programs that
worked well for them.
thanks in advance,
mike toscano
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To all,
I believe this was discussed briefly last year, but
could anyone recommend software for collection and analysis of behavioral
data from video surveillance? The Observer by Noldus was recommended
to me by a friend and I was curious if anyone else had suggestions or programs
that worked well for them.
thanks in advance,
mike toscano
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Michael Toscano
Graduate Research Assistant
ragtuswa@tamu.edu
home: (979) 862-2632 office: (979)
845-5215 fax: (979) 845-5292
Kleberg Center - Dept. of AS
2471 TAMUS
College Station, TX 77843-2471
"How an [individual] masters his fate is more important than
what that fate is."
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From: IN%"noritatu@hotmail.com" "nora peskin" 14-JUN-2000 19:19:31.09
To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
CC:
Subj: thankyou
Thankyou very much to all those who gave me information about mass
extinctions and evolution!!
It was very useful, and I appreciate your help.
Yours,
Nora
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From: IN%"westerfield@multipro.com" "Al & Patricia Westerfield" 14-JUN-2000 20:56:12.26
To: IN%"redactie.nbc@hetnet.nl" "Dana Bezdickova", IN%"robin@coape.win-uk.net" "Robin Walker", IN%"myriad@ksu.edu" "Jeanne Saddler"
CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Separation "Anxiety"-Virus!
My Norton Antivirus software also was alerted by Robin's missive and
quarantined it.
Robin, you might want to try an antivirus scan, if you don't already have
some protective software installed. Maybe a false alarm, but you can never
tell.
Try a search for the kakworm.html or kakworm.hta.
Good luck, Patricia
----- Original Message -----
From: Dana Bezdickova
To: Robin Walker ; Jeanne Saddler
Cc:
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: Separation "Anxiety"-Virus!
> Dear All,
>
> I know you all get a lot of (useless) virus warnings.
> Still I thought you might like to know that my virus scanner (Norton)
> thought that Robin Walker's message to this list was infected with a
> 'kakworm' virus (this is not a joke, I might add for all the Dutch
speaking
> subscribers) .
>
> I hope that this message was redundant and that none of you have had any
> problems.
>
> regards,
> Dana
>
> PS I am still curious about what Robin had to say about separation anxiety
>
>
From: IN%"Heleen_Vandeweerd@adas.co.uk" "Heleen Van De Weerd" 15-JUN-2000 01:59:30.99
To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
CC:
Subj: RE: observation software
Hi Michael,
Have a look at the Etholog home page:
http://www.geocities.com:0080/CapeCanaveral/Lab/2727/ethoinde.htm
Etholog is a freeware behaviour observation package which can be very usefu=
ll if you dont want do very complicated ethological observations.
Good luck, Heleen
:o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o)
Dr. H.A. van de Weerd
ADAS Terrington
Terrington St. Clement
Kings Lynn
Norfolk
PE34 4PW
Tel: +44 (0) 1553 828621
Fax: +44 (0) 1553 827229
email: Heleen.vandeweerd@adas.co.uk
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