From: IN%"EcoDigest@aol.com" 1-NOV-1997 13:57:11.22 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: WILDLIFE ECOLOGY Digest is available ~free~ for subscription. Hello! In case you missed it, WILDLIFE ECOLOGY Digest is available ~free~ for subscription. This is a weekly e-mail digest for research, conversation, job opportunities, issues, thoughts, and general postings concerning wildlife ecology... We now have 7,500+ members on the list (Including wildlife professionals from all over the world), and the information on the digest has been very informative and helpful to all parties involved. To receive this free, e-mail digest, please send e-mail to: wildside@saber.net with the subject: "Subscribe to WED." Your first issue will arrive soon after that! Please check out our website at http://members.aol.com/EcoDigest/wed.html for WED back issues, wildlife-related websites, and wildlife-related listservers! Here is a sample list of topics from the lastest issue of WED: 1. 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Silver eel seaward migration 28. Marine Ecosystem Mamangement Conference (Feb/98) 29. New scholarships for ecological studies 30. RFI: Turkey vulture migration reports Thanks, David Doyle (wildside@saber.net) P.S. My apologies in advance for any cross-posting and/or duplications. From: IN%"mb0u5038@liverpool.ac.uk" "Lester, Gibbs...G" 3-NOV-1997 09:47:44.27 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Mailing Lists Could some1 please send me a list of mailing lists within the science field, if som1 has such a thing. Or possibly point me in the right direction of one. With particular referance to ecology... Thanks Geoff. ***************************************************** * I might be an adult but I'm a minor at heart!!! * ***************************************************** ***************************************************** * http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/2962 * ***************************************************** From: IN%"Nora_Lewis@umanitoba.ca" "Nora Lewis" 3-NOV-1997 13:13:19.98 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: IN%"nlewis@Ms.UManitoba.CA" Subj: new address Re: My new email address My apologies to Renee and anyone else who may have been trying to contact me. My new email address is: nlewis@ms.umanitoba.ca or Nora_Lewis@UManitoba.ca Nora From: IN%"tapir@tapirback.com" "Tapir" 3-NOV-1997 13:40:48.69 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Biology/Zoology listservs I recommend that anyone interested in biology listservs (and lots of other resources) check out the site of BIOSIS and the Zoological Record: http://www.york.biosis.org/zrdocs/zoolinfo/zoolinfo.htm Geoff, I gave you the mammals page, but this is probably a better general starting point. Have fun :) Sheryl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sheryl Todd ~ The Tapir Gallery ~ Tapir Preservation Fund http://www.tapirback.com/tapirgal/ tapir@tapirback.com Tapir Talk info & archives: http://www.tapirback.com/tapirgal/tt.htm Deputy Chair, IUCN/SSC Tapir Specialist Group Co-Editor, IUCN/SSC TSG Newsletter P.O. Box 1432, Palisade, CO 81526 USA Fax (970) 464-0377 "Promoting the Welfare of Tapirs Everywhere" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: IN%"TWIDOWSKI@APS.UoGuelph.CA" "TINA WIDOWSKI" 3-NOV-1997 14:20:12.60 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Shrinking the Social GRoup Dear All: I am looking for information concerning the effects of removing animals from an established social group on agonsitic and feeding behaviour (without introducing new animals). Although I am primarily interested in pigs I would be interested in information from other species. Does any one know of any published work on the topic? Thank you, Tina Widowski From: IN%"jamench@ucdavis.edu" "Joy A. Mench" 3-NOV-1997 16:50:09.27 To: IN%"applied-ethology-error@sask.usask.ca" "applied-ethology-error" CC: Subj: RE: Shrinking the Social GRoup widowski ---------- >From: applied-ethology-error >To: applied-ethology >Subject: Shrinking the Social GRoup >Date: Monday, November 03, 1997 3:17PM > >Dear All: > >I am looking for information concerning the effects of removing >animals from an established social group on agonsitic and feeding >behaviour (without introducing new animals). Although I am primarily >interested in pigs I would be interested in information from other >species. > >Does any one know of any published work on the topic? > >Thank you, >Tina Widowski > > From: IN%"marithe@mandic.com.br" "maria thereza amaral" 3-NOV-1997 18:23:07.76 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: Shrinking the Social GRoup At 15:17 03/11/97 -0400, you wrote: >Dear All: > >I am looking for information concerning the effects of removing=20 >animals from an established social group on agonsitic and feeding=20 >behaviour (without introducing new animals). Although I am primarily=20 >interested in pigs I would be interested in information from other=20 >species.=20 > >Does any one know of any published work on the topic? > >Thank you,=20 >Tina Widowski > > > =20 maria thereza cera galv=E3o do amaral=09 veterin=E1ria homeopata ( homeopatician veterinarian ) S=E3o Paulo - Brasil ( Brazil ) marithe@mandic.com.br http://pessoal.mandic.com.br/marithe/mth33.htm favor confirmar recebimento deste se n=E3o for de lista . From: IN%"marithe@mandic.com.br" "maria thereza amaral" 3-NOV-1997 20:02:40.08 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: Shrinking the Social GRoup MTH> Please, this subject for domestics dogs and felines interest to me very much. If you could forward to me any messages about gogs and cats I will be thankfull. At 15:17 03/11/97 -0400, you wrote: >Dear All: > >I am looking for information concerning the effects of removing=20 >animals from an established social group on agonsitic and feeding=20 >behaviour (without introducing new animals). Although I am primarily=20 >interested in pigs I would be interested in information from other=20 >species.=20 > >Does any one know of any published work on the topic? > >Thank you,=20 >Tina Widowski > > > =20 maria thereza cera galv=E3o do amaral=09 veterin=E1ria homeopata ( homeopatician veterinarian ) S=E3o Paulo - Brasil ( Brazil ) marithe@mandic.com.br http://pessoal.mandic.com.br/marithe/mth33.htm favor confirmar recebimento deste se n=E3o for de lista . From: IN%"filip.mulkens@agr.kuleuven.ac.be" 4-NOV-1997 03:13:26.47 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: Shrinking the Social GRoup Dear Tina and others An interesting, rather old publication is: R. Ewbank and G.B. Meese: "Aggressive behaviour in groups of domesticated pigs on removal and return of individuals." published in Animal Production 13, 685-693 (1971). Kind Regards Filip Mulkens, DVM Laboratory for Agricultural Buildings Research Faculty of Agricultural and Applied Biological Sciences K.U.Leuven Kardinaal Mercierlaan 92 B-3001 HEVERLEE BELGIUM Phone: +32-16-32 17 28 Fax: +32-16-32 19 77 E-mail: filip.mulkens@agr.kuleuven.ac.be "TINA WIDOWSKI" Wrote: | | Dear All: | | I am looking for information concerning the effects of | removing | animals from an established social group on agonsitic and | feeding | behaviour (without introducing new animals). Although I am | primarily | interested in pigs I would be interested in information | from other | species. | | Does any one know of any published work on the topic? | | Thank you, | Tina Widowski | | From: IN%"fentress@is.dal.ca" 4-NOV-1997 07:29:39.85 To: IN%"marithe@mandic.com.br" "maria thereza amaral" CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" Subj: RE: Shrinking the Social GRoup Greetings, This is a very important topic that recently became highlighted for me. Due to budgetary cuts, my university removed all financial support from our wolf project (Canadian Centre for Wolf Research in Nova Scotia), and (believe it or not) the university president proposed to break up the pack and send individual animals to individual zoos around the world. Fortunately, the public outcry (with some financial contributions) prevented this. It is not easy to get the message of social sensitivity in either wild or domestic animals across to the public. Even university presidents should have the brains (compassion) to understand that social relationships are essential to animal welfare. The Applied Ethology group might consider ways to communicate with the broader public (including university presidents). John Fentress > Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 23:56:05 -0200 > From: maria thereza amaral > Subject: Re: Shrinking the Social GRoup > To: applied-ethology@skyway.usask.ca > > > > MTH> Please, this subject for domestics dogs and felines interest to me = very > much. If you could forward to me any messages about gogs and cats I will= be > thankfull. > > > At 15:17 03/11/97 -0400, you wrote: > >Dear All: > > > >I am looking for information concerning the effects of removing > >animals from an established social group on agonsitic and feeding > >behaviour (without introducing new animals). Although I am primarily > >interested in pigs I would be interested in information from other > >species. > > > >Does any one know of any published work on the topic? > > > >Thank you, > >Tina Widowski > > > > > > > maria thereza cera galvao do amaral > veterin=E1ria homeopata ( homeopatician veterinarian ) > Sao Paulo - Brasil ( Brazil ) > marithe@mandic.com.br > http://pessoal.mandic.com.br/marithe/mth33.htm > > favor confirmar recebimento deste se nao for de lista . > > > John C. Fentress, Ph.D. Departments of Psychology & Neuroscience Dalhousie University Halifax, Nova Scotia CANADA B3H 4J1 lab: 902 494-3603 fax: 902 494-6585 From: IN%"bgycet@south-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk" "C.E.THOMPSON" 4-NOV-1997 09:25:37.35 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Turkey marking Hello; I'm Claire Thompson and I'm currently studying at Leeds University. My PhD project is on the effects of light intensity on turkey eyes and behaviour. As I have only just started it, I was wondering if anyone has found any reliable ways of marking turkeys. I will be using VCR recording mainly as well as using behaviour tests. The main problem I have is that some turkeys will be under conditions of dim lighting and it will be necessary to use an infra-red camera. C.E.THOMPSON DEPT. OF ANIMAL PHYSIOLOGY & NUTRITION THE UNIVERSITY OF LEEDS From: IN%"j.talling@csl.gov.uk" 4-NOV-1997 09:35:46.92 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Novel feeding Dear All, Does anybody know how long (approx.) a bird has to be deprived of food before it will start to eat a novel food, eg unknown seed, corn? Thanks for your help Janet Janet Talling email: j.talling@csl.gov.uk From: IN%"ElfDryadWz@aol.com" 4-NOV-1997 19:47:52.73 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: help: need to find results of experiments Ok, I know this is an ethology group, which deals with animals, but perhaps you would be willing to guide me in a project dealing with plants. I need to find results of experiments that have been done concerning cacti and artificial vs sunlight, and steady, reversed, or normal light cycles, so that I can piece together my own experiment for a school project. Can anyone help me out? I would appreciate it greatly! Thanks in advance, Paige From: IN%"jea1899@mail.poapts.com" "Jennifer Allen" 4-NOV-1997 19:57:15.13 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: John Fentress and others, I usually just read the messages and don't reply, but something I read just now really irks me enough to say something. It is not just horrible enough to cut off a project that would further knowledge about an animal as beautiful and mysterious as the wolf, but to threaten to break up the pack and send them to separate places is unthinkable. If there is anything that I can do to help, John, just let me know. Wolves have always been a passion of mine, and I would really love the chance to do something for this pack. A wolf pack is like a family and a wolf without a pack is like an orphan. It is difficult for a wolf to start all over again, let alone get into a new pack. The alpha male and female would have to be at the bottom of the rank again, the ones already at the bottom may not even be accepted. Since the wolves have no control over this situation, we have to help them. Jennifer Allen jea1899@mail.poapts.com From: IN%"Sonia_Chandra@umit.maine.edu" 5-NOV-1997 11:02:06.54 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: intro Hello. I am new to this list. I love animals and would like someday to study cheetahs in the wild. Right now I am in a biology/engineering major at the University of Maine. I just wanted to introduce myself and ask if anyone out there is also interested in the "fast cat". Sonia. Also what has happened with the wolf project? I got a message saying it was ending, but I don't even know what it was. I seemed to have missed something important. Could someone forward the old message? Thanks. From: IN%"gfb1@psu.edu" "G. F. Barbato" 5-NOV-1997 17:04:20.19 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: intro (cheetah - style) as inbred as cheetahs appear to be, you may only need to study one... : ) gfb -----Original Message----- From: Sonia Chandra To: Applied-ethology@skyway.usask.ca Date: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 12:15 PM Subject: intro >Hello. I am new to this list. I love animals and would like someday >to study cheetahs in the wild. Right now I am in a biology/engineering >major at the University of Maine. I just wanted to introduce myself >and ask if anyone out there is also interested in the "fast cat". >Sonia.[snip] From: IN%"petaipan@HK.Super.NET" 5-NOV-1997 20:10:10.67 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Stress on pet cats on the street corner Hi all I am a veterinarian working in a government regulatory authority dealing with cruelty to animals and would like some comment on the following scene: The busiest intersection in the city. A person is soliciting funds for a private animal welfare campaign and has several pet cats (longhaired domestic) perched on small platforms on the top of four foot high stands. The cats have collars and are tied by a light rope from the collar to the stand. The cats are regularly petted and brushed and taken to a sand tray on occasion. They are in this position from 10am to 10pm each day. There is an everchanging crowd of people around the cats on all sides - perhaps 50 people in the immediate vicinity and thousands more walking past every hour. Three lanes of traffic, heavy vehicles, buses. car horns and typical big city goings-on. The cats are motionless most of the time. Questions - Is this an acceptable situation? Are the cats overly stressed? Is it possible for cats to be adapted to such a situation? What would be a suitable alternative, assuming the cats should be allowed to remain on show? I'd be interested in any comments/ideas/reactions. Thanks in advance Pete Grandison. From: IN%"v8350@bealenet.com" 5-NOV-1997 20:56:42.76 To: IN%"petaipan@HK.Super.NET" "Peter Grandison" CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" Subj: RE: Stress on pet cats on the street corner Peter, I'm not a scientist, but have had cats all my life. It does sound as though they are paralysed with fear. To tie a cat by its' neck is not a safe practice any time. What happens to them when the person needs their "sandbox"? Assuming they are not sleeping during all those long hours, evidently their lives are divided between being frozen with terror and sleeping at night. An animal "welfare" campaign that treats animals in this way to get money probably needs quite a lot of investigation! Tying that person to a tall stand for 12 shifts seems more suitable. Mary Smith From: IN%"k9acad@iafrica.com" 5-NOV-1997 23:36:05.00 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: Wolf pack I totally endorse the sentiments below. Can I help? Glynne Anderson k9acad@iafrica.com South Africa. > John Fentress and others, > I usually just read the messages and don't reply, but something I read > just now really irks me enough to say something. > It is not just horrible enough to cut off a project that would further > knowledge about an animal as beautiful and mysterious as the wolf, but to > threaten to break up the pack and send them to separate places is unthinkable. > If there is anything that I can do to help, John, just let me know. > Wolves have always been a passion of mine, and I would really love the > chance to do something for this pack. A wolf pack is like a family and a > wolf without a pack is like an orphan. It is difficult for a wolf to start > all over again, let alone get into a new pack. > Since the wolves have no control over this situation, we have to help them. > Jennifer Allen > jea1899@mail.poapts.com > From: IN%"Nora_Lewis@umanitoba.ca" "Nora Lewis" 6-NOV-1997 11:38:49.92 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: IN%"nlewis@Ms.UManitoba.CA" Subj: Stress on pet cats on the street corner I assume this was not an obvious case since it was put out as a question. In these cases I like to ask the animals themselves. A large cage would allow the cats to be free and prevent pedestrians from touching the cats at random. I would put higher platforms so the cats were above the crowd, a much safer position from the cats point of view. Then I would put feed, water and a hide box in the cage. If the cats did not eat, drink or use their litter box and spent most of their time hiding, this is good evidence they are too stressed. If they spend time grooming, eating etc. and little time hiding I would say the cats have accepted this strange way of life. Although this is a more expensive prospect for the agency I believe they have an obligation to these cats. If they are unwilling to try some of these improvements it may be ammunition for closing them down. Good Luck From: IN%"heath@vetethol.demon.co.uk" "Sarah Heath" 6-NOV-1997 12:38:30.19 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: New address 11 Cotebrook Drive Upton Chester Cheshire CH2 1RA Tel/Fax: 01244 399228 Email: heath@vetethol.demon.co.uk From: IN%"jwillard@fly.erato.jst.go.jp" "Janice Willard" 6-NOV-1997 17:52:42.65 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: stress on pet cats on a street corner Thank you for a thought-provoking question. Of course, my initial reaction was negative, but I also thought, like your post from Nora Lewis, that you should ask the cats themselves. How do they look? Do they show signs of stress and anxiety, particulary in the morning, when they are being set up. Although I would despise being in a similar location, I have seen plenty of city cats perching on a narrow windowsill watching the goings on below them. And at the veterinary practice where I go, there is a clinic cat whose prefered location is a narrow platform on the windowsill about 4 feet off the ground from which she sleeps and watches the activity of the vet clinic (she is, of course, able to leave when she wants). And some cats are real "love sponges" and relish large amounts of attention. My collegues and I discussed this at lunch, and had some additional questions: The 12 hour period seems long. During this time, are the cats given any time-out or are they "performing" for this entire period? Are they being petted and touched during this entire time period? Are the platforms large enough for them to sleep? Are they allowed to sleep undisturbed if they choose? Where is the leash attached? If it is on the platform, then the cat could strangle itself if was startled and leapt from the platform. Presumably, the humans present would prevent this, but this is a risk if there were an emergency and the cats were momentarily left unattended. Is there any shelter in this location or are they exposed to a variety of inclinant weather conditions? How frequently are the cats asked to pull a 12 hour shift? In other words, are the same cats used every day or are they rotated? And one moral question was unearthed in our discussion. If the proceeds of this fund raiser goes to support a shelter, and more animals can be maintained in the shelter if these cats are working to provide for them, then one must consider the ethics of not using the cats. It seems possible that this situation could work if the right personality cats were chosen, given shorter shifts and they are given the opertunity to not perform if they choose. There are a lot of variables to consider. *************************************************************************** Janice Willard, DVM MS Machida-shi, Tokyo, Japan Phone/FAX (81)427-29-4519 jwillard@erato.jst.go.jp "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time, and it annoys the pig." Leo Bustad From: IN%"j.talling@csl.gov.uk" 7-NOV-1997 10:10:56.45 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: (no subject) Dear All, Something for a Friday afternoon: A colleague and I have just been having a debate over the differences between predictability and variability. Unfortunately we cannot come to any agreement, and so I would be interested in hearing other peoples views. She is of the view that they are describing the same thing. i.e. Unpredictability = variability. However I disagree with this. In that you can have something which is variable, for instance the colour of presented food can be varied, but still be predictable, i.e. the pattern in which the colours are presented. I would be glad to hear other opinions on this. Janet Janet Talling Central Science Laboratory Sand Hutton York UK From: IN%"bhayes@dsu.deltast.edu" "William A. Hayes" 7-NOV-1997 10:28:55.20 To: IN%"j.talling@csl.gov.uk" "Janet Talling" CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" Subj: RE: (no subject) On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Janet Talling wrote: > She is of the view that they are describing the same thing. > i.e. Unpredictability = variability. Each object or item has a number of characters (variables) which may have several states or dimensions. In you example you give a food pellet I believe. Such a pellet may have several characters (color, size, shape, density, aroma, flavor, etc.). Each of those characters may have a variety of states (categories) or measures. Variability is the extent to which those states are expressed within a population (or sample) of such objects. Predictability has to do with the probability or likelihood of each particular character state for each variable. In your example, you are each considering a different variable. Each variable has its own variability bounds and own probability characteristics, which may or may not be related between variables. If there is a relationship, say between color, and flavor, then to know one adds to the ability to predict the other. If a red pellet always tastes like liver, then if the pellet is red we can predict it to taste like liver with 100% probability. If a red pellet is liver 50% of the time and chicken the other 50%, then we can only predict with 50% confidence. Best wishes, Bill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- William A. Hayes, II, Ph.D. | If you follow your bliss, you put yourself Professor of Biology | on a kind of a track that has been there P.O.Box 3234 | the whole while, waiting for you, and the Delta State University | life you ought to be living is the one you Cleveland, MS 38733 | are living. --- Joseph Campbell ph: 601-846-4247 \ _____ ____ fax: 601-846-4016 | \_____ _____/ \ email: bhayes@dsu.deltast.edu | __ \^^/ __ | | ////)\(0= =0)/(\\\\ // ^\| / ^^ \ |/^ \\ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Website - http://okra.deltast.edu/~bhayes/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IN%"skylark@nuri.net" 7-NOV-1997 23:55:55.00 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Bird photoguide exchange!! Dear all I am a Ph.D student at Lab. of Ornithology, Dept. of Biology, Kyung-Hee University, in Republic of Korea. I hope to exchange Korean Bird photoguide(1. Migratory birds of Korea, pp. 120, Daewon publ., 1996, Color photos and in korean text, Moo-Boo Yoon 2. Resident birds of Korea, pp. 110, Daewon Publ., Color photos and in Korean text, Moo-Boo Yoon et al.) with other countries birds photo guide. If anyone want to exchange, Please let me Know your request. Best regards, Bo-Yeon Hwang Lab. of Ornithology, Dept. of Biology, Kyung-Hee University, Seoul, 130-701, Republic of Korea From: IN%"filip.mulkens@agr.kuleuven.ac.be" 10-NOV-1997 05:06:17.75 To: IN%"Applied-Ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: "rump biting" in growing pigs Dear all I've got a request of a student about "rump biting" in growing pigs. For her master's degree she's doing her practicals at a pig farm. Pigs in several, nonadjacent compartments are bitten in the rump region. It starts with a excoration-like lesion, but it worsens: whole pieces of flesh are bitten out. It happens in boars, barrows and gilts and it starts from 30-40 kg body weight. Several animals per pen are "victim". When the teeth of suspected author(s) are clipped, the lesions stay stable and heal. Application of strong smelling oil on the primary wounds doesn't prevent this behaviour. Neither the stock person nor the student have ever seen the action of biting, so they don't know if there is just one or maybe more authors. The stock person had similar problems several years ago, but they disappeared spontaneously. Does anybody has ever seen this behaviour and know the etiology and the therapy? Thank you very much in advance, Kind regards Filip Mulkens, DVM Laboratory for Agricultural Buildings Research K.U.Leuven Kardinaal Mercierlaan 92 B-3001 HEVERLEE BELGIUM Phone: +32-16-32 17 28 Fax: +32-16-32 19 77 E-mail: filip.mulken@agr.kuleuven.ac.be From: IN%"uds-vete@salvador.edu.ar" "Dr. Leopoldo Estol" 13-NOV-1997 13:27:25.13 To: IN%"Applied-Ethology@sask.usask.ca" "Applied-Ethology" CC: Subj: Electronic ID Dear fellows I need updated and detailled information about electronic identification systems (microchiping) for urban animals (cats and dogs). Fees for whole and desexed; owned by senior citycen or aid for impaired people?. Cost for registration for owner? Anual reneval cost? Obligatory and additional use or not of a different anual tag or a tatoo?. Cost of chip for vet or shelter or facility?. Provition of a tag by te chip company? Brand of chip?. Universal scanner, if available? Public education program available? Problems? Thank you everybody in advance. Profesor Leopoldo Estol, Medico Veterinario, Diplomado en Salud Publica. Director, Carrera de Veterinaria, Universidad del Salvador. Campus " Nuestra Seniora del Pilar", C.C. 198, Pilar 1629, Provincia de Buenos Aires, ARGENTINA. Home phone (Internat. 00 54 1) 555 4580 / 552 1476 Office Fax. & Phone (Internat. 00 54 322) 31260 / 31261 / 31262 / 31263 / 90503 / 26053 / 26057 E-mail: uds-vete@salvador.edu.ar URL :http://salvador.edu.ar From: IN%"D.Goodwin@soton.ac.uk" "debbie goodwin" 14-NOV-1997 05:27:01.30 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: International Society for Anthrozoology: ISAZ '98 *First Announcement* International Society for Anthrozoology: ISAZ '98 Theme: Human - companion animal communication: understandings and misunderstandings. This meeting will focus on inter-species communication, including examples where the signals are correctly understood by the recipient, and those where misinterpretation occurs. Animal-human and human-animal communication will be featured equally, and "companion animal" can include species other than dog and cat. As well as contributions from several invited speakers, there is a call for submissions of papers from ISAZ members, with a deadline of March 31st 1998. Those submitting abstracts will be required to make a declaration that they have not also submitted the same study for presentation at the 8th International Conference. When: 9th September, 1998 Where: Prague Hilton Hotel, Prague, Czech Republic This conference immediately precedes the 8th International Conference on Human-Animal Interactions, also to be held at the Prague Hilton Hotel (10 - 12 September, 1998). For further details, and information on how to submit abstracts is available on the web at http://www.soton.ac.uk/~azi/isaz6.htm OR contact: Dr. John Bradshaw, School of Biological Sciences, University of Southampton, SO16 7PX, UK. email: jwsb@soton.ac.uk. ____________________________________________________________________ Best regards John From: IN%"ALund@ZI.KU.DK" "Lund, Anders {ZI}" 14-NOV-1997 06:50:47.40 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "ISAE-net" CC: Subj: RE: London meeting Sorry to bother you all! But could someone having the agenda for the winter meeting in London Dec. 3 send me the contents. I accidentaly deleted mine. Thanks Anders Lund alund@zi.ku.dk From: IN%"LennyScott@classic.msn.com" "Lenny Snyderman" 14-NOV-1997 08:43:15.17 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Searching for Information on Recommended Dog Diet Hello, I am hoping that someone can provide information, or direct me to information, regarding the "ideal" diet for the average adult dog. I am specifically interested in relative percentages of protein, fat, carbohydrates and fiber. I would also be interested to learn of recommended variations for dogs with behavior problems. Thanks in advance for any help. From: IN%"marsy-p@aix.pacwan.net" "Pierre Marsy" 14-NOV-1997 11:19:03.24 To: IN%"ETHOLOGY@SEGATE.SUNET.SE" "Ethology List", IN%"Applied-Ethology@sask.usask.ca" "Applied-Ethology" CC: Subj: reproductive behaviour of Gouldian Finch Message from Dr Peyre de Fabregues: I am Veterinary Dr. and very fond of the Gouldian Finch also called Gouldian Amadine (Poëphila gouldiae); I seek restlessly information as precise as possible concerning the reproductive behaviour of these birds In the wild. Does someone has done or still does studies about this particular theme of their life in the nature? If you have such information please send them by e-mail to marsy-p@aix.pacwan.net or, better, directly to: Dr. Peyre de Fabregues Homburger Landstr. 756 60437 Frankfurt Deutchland Fax : +49 69 50 71 681 _________________________________ Pierre MARSY E-mail: marsy-p@aix.pacwan.net From: IN%"PTigris24@aol.com" 14-NOV-1997 15:03:38.62 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: London and Large Cats Hello, I am a college student interested in large cat behavior. For the month of January I will be in Namibia working with CCF (Cheetah Conservation Fund). On my way there, I have about a ten hour layover in London's Heathrow airport on January third. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should fill my time? Any tours available? Large cat facilities? I would also appreciate any information having to do with large cat behavior. Thank you, Laurel Sand Maryland, USA