From: IN%"PetherC@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au" "Petherick, Carol (TBC)" 17-SEP-2000 16:30:49.64 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "'ethology'" CC: Subj: Taste of food All I agree with some of what Janice says about the food industry and the marketing of products. I'm involved in a Cooperative Research Centre for Cattle and Beef Quality. There has been increasing recognition amongst a lot of producers here that they no longer produce cattle, but they produce beef! There is much more emphasis on product quality and the consumer than there was 5-10 years ago. However, beef is still not seen by many consumers to be a 'convenient' food (it takes time and a certain amount of skill to do justice to beef - particularly steak - it's not a case of just "slapping it on the barbie"! The beef industry here has a long way to go in being able to produce a consistently high quality product (I won't go into all the reasons why), although there is a system in place in some parts of the country (MSA - Meat Standards Australia) that is trying to address this. The meat chicken industry here is able to produce a consistent product that consumers want. "Quality" is obviously composed of many factors, but with beef the over-riding one (at least here in Oz) is 'tenderness' (providing the meat safety is assured). Taste per se (flavour, if you like) barely comes into the equation. Hence the reason why chicken meat is so popular - it is consistently tender, although it has virtually no flavour (it has to be 'adulterated' to give it some). So, whilst I agree with Janice on some points, it's not that simple when it comes to marketing and selling unadulterated meat. Carol "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mahatma Gandhi Carol Petherick Senior Scientist (Animal Behaviour and Welfare) Queensland Beef Industry Institute Tropical Beef Centre PO Box 5545 Central Qld Mail Centre Rockhampton Qld 4702 Australia email: petherc@dpi.qld.gov.au tel: (0)7 4923 8200 fax: (0)7 4923 8222 **************************DISCLAIMER******************************** The information in this e-mail message together with any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee, any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on this e-mail message is unauthorised. Opinions contained in this e-mail message and any attachments do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Queensland Government and associated organisations. If you received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and any attachments from your computer and/or your computer system network. From: IN%"amandahan@kimo.com.tw" "Amanda" 17-SEP-2000 23:22:59.68 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: RE: Food prices Dear Bayly, I agree with you. I think the social economic measures are quite important if animal friendly food wants to be accepted by markets. The measures perhaps should include their income and their education condition about animal welfare. Amanda. ----信件原文---- Karen Bayly > >Consumers may be ill informed but they are not idiots. > >Yes, pricing foods to reflect their qualities does involve marketing, but we > >live in what purports to be a free market. > >Free markets only function where innovation exists and the consumer is free > >to make decisions on the basis of a number of variables including cost. > > > I don't recall Carol saying that consumers were idiots. Her most > interesting comment on consumers was that those in the lower > socio-economic groups had other priorities. I can't speak for other > countries but I do know that in Australia there are many single > income families who have an income that is less than the so call > "average wage" (I've never understood why they don't use the median > wage as a socio-economic measure). Unfortunately there are many more > such families than one would think, and these people base their > decision on cost, no matter what they feel about the plight of > animals. Giving your family food and providing for your children > (which includes spending on toys and other leisure items) is the most > important thing to many people. I come from such a background - my > formal education has come much later in life - so I believe I have > some understanding of the situation. > > So unless we find ways of making welfare friendly products > economically viable (subsidies?) for these people, most of them will > choose the cheaper and often less animal friendly alternative. The > only other thing is to make animal welfare more important than owning > a Game Boy (education of kids?). However, I agree in general that > giving the consumer a number of variables on which to base their > decisions is important. > > > >At the moment this simply is not the case for most basic food products like > >meat or fish. > > > Excuse my ignorance on this one - in Australia, we have access to > meat and dairy products that are intensively farmed, free range > (except pork products) or organic, and I assumed this was common in > most Western countries. I'm interested in knowing what happens > elsewhere. > > Karen Bayly > > > -- > > ****************************************************************** > Karen L Bayly > Animal Behaviour Laboratory > c /- Department of Biological Sciences > Division of Life and Environmental Sciences > Macquarie University NSW 2109 > Australia > > Telephone: +61 2 9850 9441 > Facsimile: +61 2 9850 9231 > Email: karen@galliform.psy.mq.edu.au > http://galliform.psy.mq.edu.au/ > > ****************************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- 奇摩電子信箱•溝通心世界 http://mail.kimo.com.tw < 你 今 天 KIMO 了 嗎？ > http://www.kimo.com.tw From: IN%"filip.mulkens@pfd.kuleuven.ac.be" "Filip Mulkens" 18-SEP-2000 03:54:47.49 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "AE-Network" CC: Subj: Dear Carol Petherick, Dear All With all the respect for our dear mr. Gandhi, I would say "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its ABORIGINES are treated." Filip Dr. Filip Mulkens, DVM Proefdierencentrum K.U.Leuven Herestraat 49 B-3000 Leuven Belgium Tel: +32-16-34 62 38 Fax: +32-16-34 62 41 GSM: +32-486-50 60 63 E-mail: filip.mulkens@pfd.kuleuven.ac.be From: IN%"rushenj@EM.AGR.CA" "Jeff Rushen" 18-SEP-2000 07:35:29.87 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Re: This is a good point. For example, the moral greatness of European nations could be judged by how well they treated their original celtic inhabitants, or even the indigenous populations of their African colonies. Jeff Rushen >>> Filip Mulkens 09/18 5:55 am >>> Dear Carol Petherick, Dear All With all the respect for our dear mr. Gandhi, I would say "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its ABORIGINES are treated." Filip Dr. Filip Mulkens, DVM Proefdierencentrum K.U.Leuven Herestraat 49 B-3000 Leuven Belgium Tel: +32-16-34 62 38 Fax: +32-16-34 62 41 GSM: +32-486-50 60 63 E-mail: filip.mulkens@pfd.kuleuven.ac.be From: IN%"PetherC@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au" "Petherick, Carol (TBC)" 18-SEP-2000 16:37:01.21 To: IN%"filip.mulkens@pfd.kuleuven.ac.be" "'Filip Mulkens'", IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "AE-Network" CC: Subj: RE: Dear Filip and All I see that the Australian politics has come under the spotlight - not doubt partly as a result of the Olympics! There is an old saying that with any situation such as this there are 3 sides to the story - the 2 sides plus the truth (which is often somewhere between the 2 sides). I would suggest that much that hits the media is not totally unbiased and before anybody passes judgement on another person/country/ society/government they should be aware of ALL of the facts. I also have to agree with Jeff Rushen - people in glass houses should not throw stones! Carol Petherick > -----Original Message----- > From: Filip Mulkens [SMTP:filip.mulkens@pfd.kuleuven.ac.be] > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 7:55 PM > To: AE-Network > Subject: > > Dear Carol Petherick, Dear All > > With all the respect for our dear mr. Gandhi, I would say > > "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way > its ABORIGINES are treated." > > Filip > > > Dr. Filip Mulkens, DVM > Proefdierencentrum K.U.Leuven > Herestraat 49 > B-3000 Leuven > Belgium > Tel: +32-16-34 62 38 > Fax: +32-16-34 62 41 > GSM: +32-486-50 60 63 > E-mail: filip.mulkens@pfd.kuleuven.ac.be > > > **************************DISCLAIMER******************************** The information in this e-mail message together with any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee, any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on this e-mail message is unauthorised. Opinions contained in this e-mail message and any attachments do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Queensland Government and associated organisations. If you received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and any attachments from your computer and/or your computer system network. From: IN%"mappleby@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk" "Mike Appleby" 19-SEP-2000 06:53:16.88 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: More from the fuel frontline Dear All Yes, things got tough here last week. My son told us he'd read in the paper that there was a long queue at a petrol station, but that they'd allowed a woman to go first 'because she was about to become pregnant'. Mike Michael Appleby Dr M.C. Appleby Director of Postgraduate Studies in Agriculture & Resource Economics Institute of Ecology and Resource Management University of Edinburgh West Mains Road Edinburgh EH9 3JG, UK Tel. +44 131 535 4098 Fax. +44 131 667 2601 Email michael.appleby@ed.ac.uk From: IN%"supereeyore@hotmail.com" "Eddie Fernandez" 19-SEP-2000 15:38:17.37 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: More from the fuel frontline Mike, I should hope what you meant is she was about to go into labor or give birth. If she were about to become pregnant, I seriously doubt gas was what she needed!, (although it may explain why she was allowed to go first in line)... :) Eddie F... UNT >From: Mike Appleby >To: Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca >Subject: More from the fuel frontline >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:52:46 +0000 > >Dear All > >Yes, things got tough here last week. My son told us he'd read in >the paper that there was a long queue at a petrol station, but that >they'd allowed a woman to go first 'because she was about to >become pregnant'. > >Mike > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From: IN%"jwillard@turbonet.com" "Janice Willard" 19-SEP-2000 16:51:31.11 To: IN%"mappleby@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk" "Mike Appleby" CC: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" Subj: RE: More from the fuel frontline Mike, Of course, I am viewing this thing from afar, but some how I can't but think that the farmers are going about this all wrong and could instead be using this as an opportunity to improve their own incomes and aid the environment as well. After all, agricultural products can make fuel ethanol, which burns much more cleanly than gasoline. And waste products from livestock can produce methane, also a great fuel. Instead of putting their money into OPEC's pocket, they could put it back into their own. The view amongst my environmental friends over here is that the difficulty to getting ethanol and methane plants up and running has been interference from the petroleum industry which has prevented government or banks from providing the necessary capitol to start up these alternative fuel source industries. But with the current crisis in Europe and England, perhaps the necessary leverage is present to make the commitment to better utilize the renewable agricultural resources, instead of relying on fossil fuels. Local farmer cooperatives and small regional plants would really be the way to go. And farmers who are not so strapped financially might also be more willing to implement animal welfare reforms as well...... Well, it's a thought anyway. The Prime Minister has said that he will not give into the demands of the protestors. But if an acceptable alternative (a commitment to build plants to utilize agricultural products to make fuels) could be offered, then this might overcome the stalemate and benefit all involved. Janice Janice Willard, DVM, MS Moscow, Idaho, USA At 01:52 PM 9/19/00 +0000, you wrote: >Dear All > >Yes, things got tough here last week. My son told us he'd read in >the paper that there was a long queue at a petrol station, but that >they'd allowed a woman to go first 'because she was about to >become pregnant'. > >Mike > > > >Michael Appleby > >Dr M.C. Appleby >Director of Postgraduate Studies > in Agriculture & Resource Economics >Institute of Ecology and Resource Management >University of Edinburgh >West Mains Road >Edinburgh EH9 3JG, UK >Tel. +44 131 535 4098 >Fax. +44 131 667 2601 >Email michael.appleby@ed.ac.uk > From: IN%"lcpmf@cca.ufsc.br" 19-SEP-2000 20:59:21.42 To: IN%"(Recipient list suppressed)" CC: Subj: 34th Congress of ISAE / Latest News 34th CONGRESS OF ISAE Final Announcement / Useful information Dear colleague: We are pleased to invite you to the 34th International Congress of the International Society for Applied Ethology (ISAE). The Congress will be held in the city of Florian鏕olis, Brazil, from 17 - 20 of October 2000. Please find all details regarding the Congress at our web site: http://www.cca.ufsc.br/isae2000 Please find below the latest information regarding the Congress: 1. REGISTRATION DEADLINE FOR AFTER CONGRESS TOURS: deadline is Friday, September 22nd. Tour 5: Highlands of the South of Brazil - on pasture buffalo and beef cattle farms, has been cancelled. If you have any doubt concerning the tours, please contact Turisan (turisan@turisan.com.br; or fax: +55 48 224-5777). If any problem arises, please contact us. 2. REGISTRATION DEADLINE FOR Anhatomirim Island and Dolphins Bay Tour is Friday, September 22nd. 3. MAKE YOUR RESERVATION either directly at Cost緌 do Santinho (reservas@costao.com.br or recepcao@costao.com.br; fax: +55 48 261-1236 or phone: from overseas +55 48 261-1234, from Brazil 0800-481000); or with Turisan (turisan@turisan.com.br; or fax: +55 48 224-5777). In either case, do not forget to mention ISAE2000 in your reservation request. 4. ARRIVING IN FLORIANOPOLIS: free shuttle will be available from the Airport to the hotels on days: 15, 16 and 17 of October. Free shuttle will be available from the hotels to the Airport on October 21st. If you are arriving / departing at any other time we advise you to book transportation with Turisan (turisan@turisan.com.br; or fax: +55 48 224-5777). IMPORTANT: please inform your arrival and departure flight to and from Florian鏕olis: date, company, and flight number, by e-mail (ISAE2000@CCA.UFSC.BR) or by fax (+55-48) 331-5350 / 331-5400. 5. THE OPENING OF THE CONGRESS is scheduled to be at 6:30 pm of October, 17th, Tuesday at the University. Free bus shuttle will be provided from the hotels to the University and back. Departure from the hotels: 5:30 pm. 6. CONGRESS ATENDANTS WILL HAVE internet access available at the Congress site. A fax number will also be available for receiving and sending (charged) faxes home. Very soon we will display the fax number at our home-page. Please find any other detail regarding the Congress at our web site: http://www.cca.ufsc.br/isae2000 We are looking forward to meeting you in Florian鏕olis! Head of the Organising Committee of the 34th Congress of ISAE 2000 Luiz Carlos Pinheiro Machado Filho, Ph.D LETA - Laborat鏎io de Etologia Aplicada Depto. de Zootecnia e Des. Rural - CCA Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina Rodovia Admar Gonzaga, 1346, Itacorubi. Florian鏕olis, SC, BRASIL. 88.034-001 FAX: (+5548) 331-5350 Phone: (+55 48) 331-5349 / 331-5353 E-mail: LCPMF@cca.ufsc.br Please visit the home page: 34th Congress of International Society for Applied Ethology, 17 - 20 October 2000. Florian鏕olis, BRAZIL. http://www.cca.ufsc.br/isae2000/ From: IN%"joseph.stookey@usask.ca" 20-SEP-2000 11:35:07.96 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "applied ethology list" CC: Subj: AnimalNet News/ Welfare related Dear All, Below are a couple of news articles that were picked up and distributed by the AnimalNet server. The articles have information related to recent discussions on this list. Instructions for subscribing and unsubscribing are included. Remember that if you are unsubscribing from this Applied-ethology list server you should follow these instructions: To unsubscribe from Applied-ethology send a message to: Applied-ethology-request@sask.usask.ca In the body of the message type the command: unsubscribe applied-ethology username@useraddress Sincerely, Joseph M. Stookey Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences Western College of Veterinary Medicine University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, Saskatchewan S7N 5B4 =================================================== HUMANE FARMS LABEL Sept. 19/00 AP By PHILIP BRASHER AP Farm Writer WASHINGTON -- Starting Wednesday, the U.S. government will, according to this story, allow farmers to display a seal on meat and dairy products to attest that they treat their cattle and chickens humanely. But the voluntary standards are so stringent that, the story adds, few farmers initially can meet them. To qualify for the "Free Farmed" seal, farms would have to eliminate cages for laying hens and stop using forced molting, the withdrawal of food and water to increase egg production. Dairy cattle would have to have access to pastures. Standards designed to improve farm conditions for broiler chickens and beef cattle also are in the package. Rules for hog farms are being written. The story says that the American Humane Association developed the standards and set up a new organization, Farm Animal Services, to inspect farms that want to use the label. The Agriculture Department is to monitor the inspection process. Adele Douglas, executive director of Farm Animal Services, was quoted as saying Tuesday, "If you want to improve the lives of farm animals, look for this label. If your grocery store doesn't have it, ask the manager why not. The more consumer demand there is, producers will respond to that and the animals will be helped." The new program was being announced at a news conference Wednesday. The story says that products with the label initially will be available primarily in natural food stores and upscale supermarkets. A handful of farms have been approved for the program so far: an egg producer in Wisconsin, a group of dairy farms in northern California, cattle producers that supply a Montana processor. The program is based on a British system developed by the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. Farm groups were cited as saying that growers already treat animals well, because it's in their interest to ensure the animals stay in good health. Industry groups also have voluntary animal-welfare standards for producers to follow. Chris Galen, a spokesman for the National Milk Producers Federation was quoted as saying, "A cow that's well cared for is going to be a much better part of your dairy farm." On the Net: AHA: http://www.americanhumane.org USDA's Agricultural Marketing Service: http://www.ams.usda.gov POLL-US PUBLIC SUPPORTS HUMANE PRACTICES Sept 19/00 Reuters By Gail Appleson NEW YORK - According to a U.S. poll released on Tuesday and cited in this story, most U.S. citizens oppose common but controversial techniques used by egg producers to stimulate egg production in starving hens, practices which received widespread publicity in August when McDonald's Corp. said it would no longer buy eggs from producers who fail to provide humane conditions for chickens. The story says that the poll, conducted by Zogby America for Watkins Glen, New York-based Farm Sanctuary, showed that 75.4 percent of respondents found it unacceptable to starve hens for over a week in order to induce the hens' bodies to "molt," stimulating the egg production cycle and increasing production. The telephone poll surveyed 1,204 adults across the country between Sept. 15 and Monday. Farm Sanctuary Director Gene Bauston was cited as saying the poll results indicated widespread support for McDonald's action, the first by a major U.S. restaurant chain, adding, "The egg industry routinely subjects hens to inhumane living conditions which offend public sentiments. We believe that McDonald's recent action sends an important and powerful message to the egg industry." He said most of the 300 million egg-laying hens in the United States are confined in small wire cages that are lined up and stacked in tiers in factory-like warehouses. Hens are crowded so tightly they cannot stretch their wings. Bauston said these conditions are outlawed in Europe. DAVID BYRNE ANNOUNCES IMPROVEMENTS IN WELFARE CONDITIONS OF PIGS September 19, 2000 European Commission DN: IP/00/1019 http://europa.eu.int/rapid/start/cgi/guesten.ksh?p_action.gettxt=gt&doc=IP/0 0/1019|0|RAPID&lg=EN "The conditions in which pigs are reared must be improved to reflect the need for higher levels of animal welfare", stated David Byrne, following a meeting with the Eurogroup for Animal Welfare. Announcing proposals to be presented to the Commission shortly, Mr Byrne said that he would be putting forward important improvements in the conditions in which pigs are being reared. At the meeting the Commissioner responsible for Health and Consumer Protection was presented with a report and video, prepared by the Eurogroup, on the welfare of pigs. The report reflects the strong public interest in the issue of animal welfare and the persistent calls on the European Commission to strengthen Community provisions in this area. Commissioner Byrne is proposing that this interest is reflected in concrete actions. In 1991, the Council adopted a Directive(1) laying down minimum standards for the protection of pigs. The Commission is actively considering a number of significant improvements to the provisions of this directive. The existing main rules of the directive are: minimum surface requirements for different categories of pigs; a prohibition of the construction or conversion of installations in which sows and gilts are tethered; castration of male pigs aged over four weeks may be carried out only under anaesthetic by a veterinarian or a qualified person; a prohibition of routine tail docking and tooth clipping; if tooth clipping appears necessary, it must be carried out within seven days of birth; piglets must not be weaned from the sow at less than three weeks of age. At the request of the Commission, the Scientific Committee on Animal Health and Animal Welfare adopted an opinion on "The Welfare of Intensively Kept Pigs"(2). The outcome of this opinion highlights the necessity to take actions for the improvement of the welfare conditions of pigs and in particular to avoid in the future the use of individual stalls for pregnant sows. The Commission is now considering to bring current legislation in line with the scientific evidence and the experience acquired by Member States in the field of the protection of pigs. The proposal is likely to consider the following aspects: rules for keeping sows in social groups; rules on separate areas for the performance of their normal behaviour patterns; a prohibition of the tethering of sows; rules to enrich the environment of pigs on the farm; improvement of the quality of flooring surfaces; a ban on the routine mutilation of pigs. ONTARIO: ANIMAL, SPOUSAL ABUSE LINK September 19, 2000 National Post NEWMARKET - The Ontario Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals has linked animal cruelty and spousal abuse after surveying women at 21 shelters across the province. Nearly half the 111 respondents said their partner had abused or killed one or more of their pets or threatened to do so. Some 43% said concern over their pets' welfare had prevented them from leaving an abusive situation earlier. One woman said her spouse attacked her dog with an axe and threatened to do the same to her if she left. To subscribe to AnimalNet, send mail to: (subscription is free) listserv@listserv.uoguelph.ca leave subject line blank in the body of the message type: subscribe animalnet-L firstname lastname i.e. subscribe animalnet -L Wendy Powell To unsubscribe to AnimalNet, send mail to: listserv@listserv.uoguelph.ca leave subject line blank in the body of the message type: signoff animalnet-L For more information about the AnimalNet research program, please contact: Dr. Wendy Powell wpowell@uoguelph.ca http://www.plant.uoguelph.ca/safefood archived at: http://www.plant.uoguelph.ca/safefood/archives/animalnet-archives.htm From: IN%"jessnbob@ihug.co.nz" "Jessica van der Pol" 20-SEP-2000 15:42:46.38 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "Applied ethology" CC: Subj: urine spraying cats Hi all, Does anyone out there know of any references referring to the use of amitryptiline, fluoxetine and antihistamine for the treatment of urine marking in cats? Any info. would be greatly appreciated, thanks, Jessica. From: IN%"kah3@cornell.edu" "Dr. Katherine Houpt" 21-SEP-2000 09:23:20.67 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Fwd: Re: urine spraying cats >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:20:24 -0400 >To: Jessica van der Pol >From: "Dr. Katherine Houpt" >Subject: Re: urine spraying cats > >All the vet behavior text books: mine Domestic Animal Behavior,;Karen >Overall's Clinical Behavioral Medicine for Small Animals; Landsberg >Hunthausen and Ackerman Behavior Problems of the Dog and Cat; Bonnie >Beaver's Veterinary Aspects of Feline Behavior all contain this >information with more references to the original studies. > > >At 09:39 AM 9/21/00 +0700, you wrote: >>Hi all, >>Does anyone out there know of any references referring to the use of >>amitryptiline, fluoxetine and antihistamine for the treatment of urine >>marking in cats? Any info. would be greatly appreciated, thanks, Jessica. From: IN%"orion1432@juno.com" "D. B. Cameron" 21-SEP-2000 14:36:57.08 To: IN%"AVSAB-L@listserv.utk.edu" CC: IN%"barbara@netshel.net", IN%"wxm20@po.cwru.edu", IN%"mmilani@CYBERPORTAL.NET", IN%"ilanar@aol.com", IN%"robin@coape.win-uk.net", IN%"937.439.1342@AVSAB.com", IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca", IN%"ABrad93939@aol.com", IN%"ckorn@prodigy.net", IN%"cgr Subj: Food for thought Just a tiny bit of info for perspecive on one "danger". We are all well aware that raw eggs can, potentially, carry Salmonella enteritidis bacteria. But what is the degree of that potential? According to Consumers Digest, about one in 20,000 eggs may carry these bacteria. ^ ^ D. B. Cameron, DVM Animal Behavior Clinic < \ / > ! ! "Always remember YOU are unique . . . . . .. just like everyone else." Anonymous From: IN%"margory@dnai.com" "margory cohen" 21-SEP-2000 19:08:23.90 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: more from the pig-- most adaptable creature This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_wzSNIRHH3qLHi1I9Imyraw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT an energizer bunny in a new (art) worldhello - the other day i mentioned something about pigs being raised in England connection with organ transplants and while i caught this on a television broadcast in the States, someone kindly posted that in fact this focus of pig rearing is going on here as well, for which information i'm obliged (i learned long ago when i lived in England, i learned alot more of what was going on her from across the ocean than when i'm on this side). then, this week, in the San Francisco daily paper, i caught a story, perhaps you know already, about an artist, Eduardo Kac, who has created, if i recollect correctly, using protein from the pig?, a flourescent rabbit. this was a story reprinted from the Boston Globe which i think has come up because Alba the rabbit is being held in a lab in France over concerns for her welfare. seems she is Mr. Kac's "canvas," for the sake of "transgenic art" -- "new art form based on the use of genetic engineering techniques to create unique living beings." an albino rabbit, Alba now glows. the artist worked with scientist(s) already involved with projects involving this particular flourescent protein in animals to track tumors and some genetic diseases. apparently this was the first time the process was applied to an animal who would be displayed, as it were, for an exhibit to be held in France. i couldn't find this particular article on-line but Mr. Kac has a website which features his work and an illustration of Alba. and if i come across anything else on it, i can forward if you like. a local cartoonist the other day had a drawing of 2 pigs chatting in front of a herd? of pigs -- one saying to the other something like "I'm glad I'm the Easter Ham and not being used for DNA." i hope i'm not completely off-track. best, margory --Boundary_(ID_wzSNIRHH3qLHi1I9Imyraw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT an energizer bunny in a new (art) world
hello -
 
the other day i mentioned something about pigs being raised in England connection with organ transplants and while i caught this on a television broadcast in the States, someone kindly posted that in fact this focus of pig rearing is going on here as well, for which information i'm obliged (i learned long ago when i lived in England, i learned alot more of what was going on her from across the ocean than when i'm on this side).
 
then, this week, in the San Francisco daily paper, i caught a story, perhaps you know already, about an artist, Eduardo Kac, who has created, if i recollect correctly, using protein from the pig?, a flourescent rabbit.   this was a story reprinted from the Boston Globe which i think has come up because Alba the rabbit is being held in a lab in France over concerns for her welfare.  seems she is Mr. Kac's "canvas," for the sake of "transgenic art" -- "new art form based on the use of genetic engineering techniques to create unique living beings."

an albino rabbit, Alba now glows.  the artist worked with scientist(s) already involved with projects involving this particular flourescent protein in animals to track tumors and some genetic diseases.  apparently this was the first time the process was applied to an animal who would be displayed, as it were, for an exhibit to be held in France.   

i couldn't find this particular article on-line but Mr. Kac has a website which features his work and an illustration of Alba.  and if i come across anything else on it, i can forward if you like.

a local cartoonist the other day had a drawing of 2 pigs chatting in front of a herd? of pigs -- one saying to the other something like "I'm glad I'm the Easter Ham and not being used for DNA."

i hope i'm not completely off-track.

best,

margory

--Boundary_(ID_wzSNIRHH3qLHi1I9Imyraw)-- From: IN%"Andreas.Briese@tiho-hannover.de" 22-SEP-2000 02:12:46.52 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: USDA Definition of pain and distress By accident i found the following USDA Request for Comments on the the legal definition of pain and distress in animals. Maybe there are people on this list interested in this issue. Webadress is http://www.aphis.usda.gov/reac/ look under current issues. Text also posted below. Regards Andreas Briese (Adress at the end of this mail) TEXT FROM USDA-Website [Federal Register: July 10, 2000 (Volume 65, Number 132)] [Proposed Rules] [Page 42304-42305] From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:fr10jy00-18] ====================================================================== == Proposed Rules Federal Register ______________________________________________________________________ __ This section of the FEDERAL REGISTER contains notices to the public of the proposed issuance of rules and regulations. The purpose of these notices is to give interested persons an opportunity to participate in the rule making prior to the adoption of the final rules. ====================================================================== == [[Page 42304]] DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service 9 CFR Parts 1 and 2 [Docket No. 00-005-1] Animal Welfare; Definitions for and Reporting of Pain and Distress AGENCY: Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, USDA. ACTION: Request for comments. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - SUMMARY: We are considering several changes to the Animal Welfare regulations to promote the humane treatment of live animals used in research, testing, and teaching and to improve the quality of information we report to Congress concerning animal pain and distress. Specifically, we are considering adding a definition for the term ``distress.'' Although this term is used throughout the Animal Welfare regulations, it is not defined. The addition of such a definition would clarify what we consider to be ``distress'' and could help assist research facilities to recognize and minimize distress in animals in accordance with the Animal Welfare Act (AWA). We are also considering replacing or modifying the system we use to classify animal pain and distress. Professional standards regarding the recognition and relief of animal pain and distress have changed significantly since we established our classification system. Some biomedical research professionals and animal welfare advocates believe our classification system is outdated and inadequate. A different categorization system could produce data that more accurately depict the nature of animal pain or distress and provide a better tool to measure efforts made to minimize animal pain and distress at research facilities. We are soliciting public comments on the changes we are considering. We are also interested in obtaining information on specific pain and distress classification systems other than the one we now use. DATES: We invite you to comment on this docket. We will consider all comments that we receive by September 8, 2000. ADDRESSES: Please send your comment and three copies to: Docket No. 00- 005-1, Regulatory Analysis and Development, PPD, APHIS, Suite 3C03, 4700 River Road, Unit 118, Riverdale, MD 20737-1238. Please state that your comment refers to Docket No. 00-005-1. You may read any comments that we receive on this docket in our reading room. The reading room is located in room 1141 of the USDA South Building, 14th Street and Independence Avenue, SW., Washington, DC. Normal reading room hours are 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday, except holidays. To be sure someone is there to help you, please call (202) 690-2817 before coming. APHIS documents published in the Federal Register, and related information, including the names of organizations and individuals who have commented on APHIS dockets, are available on the Internet at http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ppd/rad/webrepor.html. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Dr. Jodie Kulpa, Staff Veterinarian, AC, APHIS, 4700 River Road Unit 84, Riverdale, MD 20737-1234; (301) 734-7833. SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: Background Under the Animal Welfare Act (AWA) (7 U.S.C. 2131 et seq.), the Secretary of Agriculture is authorized to promulgate standards and other requirements regarding the humane handling, care, treatment, and transportation of certain animals by dealers, research facilities, exhibitors, carriers and intermediate handlers. The Secretary has delegated responsibility for administering the AWA to the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) of the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA). Regulations established under the AWA are contained in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) in title 9, parts 1, 2, and 3 (referred to below as the regulations). Part 1 contains definitions for terms used in parts 2 and 3. Part 2 contains general requirements for regulated parties. Part 3 contains specific requirements for the care and handling of certain animals. We are soliciting comments on an approach, discussed below, for amending the regulations by defining ``distress'' in part 1 and by modifying or replacing the animal pain and distress classification system in part 2. Definition for Distress In the regulations, we define a ``painful procedure'' as any procedure that would reasonably be expected to cause more than slight or momentary pain or distress in a human being to which that procedure was applied. Although we use the term ``distress'' in this definition and elsewhere in the regulations, there is no definition for distress in the regulations. We are considering adding such a definition because of requests from the biomedical research community and animal advocacy groups. These parties have asked USDA to provide guidance on what is considered to be distress in a procedure involving research animals in order to improve recognition of animal distress, to classify and report it more accurately, and to create a heightened awareness of the regulations' requirement to minimize animal distress and pain. Pain and Distress Classification System Section 13(a)(7)(B) of the AWA requires research facilities to annually provide ``information on procedures likely to produce pain or distress in any animal.'' In accordance with the AWA, the regulations at Sec. 2.36 require facilities that use or intend to use live animals for research, tests, experiments, or teaching to submit an annual report to the Animal Care Regional Director for the State where the facility is located. Among other things, the report must state the common names and the numbers of animals upon which teaching, experiments, research, surgery, or tests were conducted involving: (1) No pain, distress, or use of pain-relieving drugs; (2) accompanying pain or distress to the animals and for which appropriate anesthetic, analgesic, or tranquilizing drugs were used; and (3) accompanying pain or distress to the animals and for which the use of appropriate anesthetic, analgesic, or tranquilizing drugs would have adversely affected the procedures, results, or interpretation of the teaching, research, experiments, surgery, or tests. [[Page 42305]] To provide these data, each research facility must assess the potential for animal pain or distress associated with the proposed procedures. This assessment is performed prospectively (i.e., before the procedure) and typically forms the basis for the pain and distress report provided by the facility to USDA. The assessment, therefore, is an estimate based on professional judgment, knowledge, and experience, and the resulting report may or may not accurately reflect the conditions the animals actually experience. The research facility can, as an option, retrospectively (i.e., during or after the procedure) assess the animal pain and distress observed and report these results. We do not know how often facilities perform retrospective reporting. There is no provision in the current classification system to address some areas identified by the research community and animal advocacy groups. For example, the current system does not include a means to report: An assessment of the relative intensity or duration of pain or distress either observed in the animal or anticipated to be experienced by the animal; An assessment of the anticipated or observed efficacy of the pain- or distress-relieving agent provided to animals undergoing a painful or distressful procedure; A distinction between procedures causing animal pain and procedures causing animal distress; Animals that were prevented from experiencing pain or distress by the appropriate and effective use of pain- or distress- relieving methods or procedures (e.g., well-anesthetized animals that undergo terminal surgery); Animals that did not experience pain or distress due to the appropriate and effective use of pain- or distress-relieving methods or procedures other than anesthetic, analgesic, or tranquilizing agents; Animals that experience unrelieved pain or distress for a reason other than that the use of anesthetic, analgesic, or tranquilizing drugs would have adversely affected the procedures, results, experiments, surgery, or tests; or Animals that experience pain or distress without having been used in a procedure (e.g., illness in animals that have been genetically altered to develop disease). We are aware of several alternative pain and distress classification systems. For example, the system adopted by the Canadian Council on Animal Care, ``Categories of Invasiveness in Animal Experiments,'' may be viewed on the Internet at http://www.ccac.ca/ english/categ.htm. The system proposed by the Humane Society of the United States may be viewed on the Internet at http://hsus.org/ programs/research/usda_proposed_scale.html.\1\ Other classification systems, varying greatly in complexity, are in use in other countries, such as Switzerland and Sweden. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- \1\ If you do not have access to the Internet, you may obtain a copy of the system adopted by Canadian Council on Animal Care or the system proposed by the Humane Society of the United States by contacting the person listed under FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT at the beginning of this document. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Modifying the current USDA system, in lieu of replacing it, could also be an option. This could involve replacing or redefining the existing categories to: Separately report pain and distress; Quantify pain and distress intensity and duration; Separately classify anesthetized or otherwise treated animals undergoing potentially painful procedures but not experiencing pain or distress; or Modify the system in other ways. We invite your comments on adding a definition for distress to the regulations and replacing or modifying our animal pain and distress classification system. We are particularly interested in soliciting comments addressing the following questions: 1. Would adding a definition for distress to the regulations help institutions using animals for research, testing, or teaching better recognize, minimize, and report animal distress? 2. If a definition for distress is added to the regulations, what key elements should be included in that definition? 3. What are the benefits and limitations of our pain and distress classification system? 4. Should our animal pain and distress classification system be modified or replaced? If so, what specific modifications or alternate classification systems should we consider? 5. Should animal pain and distress be prospectively or retrospectively reported? Written comments should be submitted within the 60-day comment period specified in this document (see DATES and ADDRESSES). Executive Order 12866 This action has been reviewed under Executive Order 12866. The action has been determined to be not significant for the purposes of Executive Order 12866 and, therefore, has not been reviewed by the Office of Management and Budget. Authority: 7 U.S.C. 2131-2159; 7 CFR 2.22, 2.80, and 371.2(g). Done in Washington, DC, this 3rd day of July 2000. Bobby R. Acord, Acting Administrator, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service. [FR Doc. 00-17280 Filed 7-7-00; 8:45 am] BILLING CODE 3410-34-P ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Institut fuer Tierhygiene und Tierschutz Tieraerztliche Hochschule Hannover Dr. med. vet. Andreas Briese Buenteweg 17p 30559 Hannover Tel.: (0511) 953-8836 (0511) 120 2102 Fax.: (0511) 953-8588 (0511) 120 99 2102 e-mail: Andreas.Briese@tiho-hannover.de alternativ (grosse Attachments): Andreas_Briese@animcare-sci.de ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: IN%"myriad@ksu.edu" "Jeanne Saddler" 23-SEP-2000 08:31:35.76 To: CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" Subj: RE: your mail > One does not have to choose between the one or the other. Educate owners > and select for less aggression in the dog. It is not selection for a lack > of aggression but a higher threshold for aggression. > > >Maybe in a wild mouse the level of aggression is excessive, but tame pet > shop mice >and domestic dogs have already undergone plenty of >genetic > selection to make them >acceptable pets. > > Of course these are just examples I used to show that aggressive behaviour > has genetic components and selective breeding can affect the threshold of > aggressive responsiveness. (It's not a plied for testing mice for > aggressiveness) > I don't agree with your suggestion that we can stop with selective > breeding. We should constantly select the best breeding animals. And not > only the best looking animals but also the animals that display the > preferred behavioural features. As much as we might like to debate this selective breeding issue we need to remember that the majority of dog are produced by people who don't give a flyin flip about what they are producing. They want to breed fluffy to the first dog they can find so they can have PUPPIES! Pet owners dont have hips x-rayed, eyes cerfed, brucellosis tests, or any other evaluations done before breeding. *If* their dog has AKC papers they assume they can make money by breeding their allergy ridden, dysplastic, animal and make big money by producing AKC registered puppies. Plenty of others simply fail to keep their females from being bred to the neighborhood strays when she's in season. There *are* reputable breeders who concern themselves with temperament. Look at the improvement in Dobermans over what they were in the 50s. It is not unrealistic to think that eventually all breeds could be a docile as Goldens and Irish Setters. However, for some breeds their standard calls for guarding behavior. A Kuvaz with a Golden temperament would be useless as a flock guardian. Selecting for docility would render this breed useless for its intended purpose. Considering that any dog handled poorly can become aggressive wether out of defensiveness, fear, dominance, or some other reason, it seems proper training, handling, management, and owner education is the way to go. H.U.G. Your dog! Jeanne Saddler, myriad@ksu.edu (Manhattan Kansas) From: IN%"ian@stockguard.co.nz" "Ian" 24-SEP-2000 19:09:17.25 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: urine spraying cats Have you tried FELIWAY Jessica? It contains feline facial pheromones & works well against many cat anxiety complaints including urine spraying. On top of the feedback we have had as NZ distributors of the product, I can speak from personal experience with our own cat. -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Katherine Houpt [mailto:kah3@cornell.edu] Sent: Friday, 22 September 2000 03:22 To: Applied-ethology@skyway.usask.ca Subject: Fwd: Re: urine spraying cats >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:20:24 -0400 >To: Jessica van der Pol >From: "Dr. Katherine Houpt" >Subject: Re: urine spraying cats > >All the vet behavior text books: mine Domestic Animal Behavior,;Karen >Overall's Clinical Behavioral Medicine for Small Animals; Landsberg >Hunthausen and Ackerman Behavior Problems of the Dog and Cat; Bonnie >Beaver's Veterinary Aspects of Feline Behavior all contain this >information with more references to the original studies. > > >At 09:39 AM 9/21/00 +0700, you wrote: >>Hi all, >>Does anyone out there know of any references referring to the use of >>amitryptiline, fluoxetine and antihistamine for the treatment of urine >>marking in cats? Any info. would be greatly appreciated, thanks, Jessica. From: IN%"PetherC@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au" "Petherick, Carol (TBC)" 24-SEP-2000 21:24:08.48 To: IN%"ian@stockguard.co.nz" "'Ian'", IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: urine spraying cats I wonder if this is the same as a product that's recently been patented by Dynavet of France (reported in this week's New Scientist). The product contains oleic, caproic and aminovaleric acids and is in the form of a spray, paste or waxy stick. Apparently the idea is that you put this on the surface where the cat is spraying and it is said to encourage them to cheek/chin mark rather than spray. Carol Petherick > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian [SMTP:ian@stockguard.co.nz] > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 9:55 AM > To: Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca > Subject: RE: urine spraying cats > > Have you tried FELIWAY Jessica? It contains feline facial pheromones & > works well against many cat anxiety complaints including urine spraying. > On > top of the feedback we have had as NZ distributors of the product, I can > speak from personal experience with our own cat. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dr. Katherine Houpt [mailto:kah3@cornell.edu] > Sent: Friday, 22 September 2000 03:22 > To: Applied-ethology@skyway.usask.ca > Subject: Fwd: Re: urine spraying cats > > > >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:20:24 -0400 > >To: Jessica van der Pol > >From: "Dr. Katherine Houpt" > >Subject: Re: urine spraying cats > > > >All the vet behavior text books: mine Domestic Animal Behavior,;Karen > >Overall's Clinical Behavioral Medicine for Small Animals; Landsberg > >Hunthausen and Ackerman Behavior Problems of the Dog and Cat; Bonnie > >Beaver's Veterinary Aspects of Feline Behavior all contain this > >information with more references to the original studies. > > > > > >At 09:39 AM 9/21/00 +0700, you wrote: > >>Hi all, > >>Does anyone out there know of any references referring to the use of > >>amitryptiline, fluoxetine and antihistamine for the treatment of urine > >>marking in cats? Any info. would be greatly appreciated, thanks, > Jessica. > > **************************DISCLAIMER******************************** The information in this e-mail message together with any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee, any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on this e-mail message is unauthorised. Opinions contained in this e-mail message and any attachments do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Queensland Government and associated organisations. If you received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and any attachments from your computer and/or your computer system network. From: IN%"Ute.Knierim@tiho-hannover.de" "Ute Knierim" 25-SEP-2000 03:24:00.38 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Conference Political Psychology Dear all, I received a request to inform ISAE-members about the following upcoming conference: International Society of Political Psychology Twenty-Fourth Annual Scientific Meeting http://ispp.org/ISPP/meet.html Cuernavaca, Mexico July 15 to July 18, 2001 "Cultures of Violence, Cultures of Peace" Best wishes Ute ********************************************************************* Dr. Ute Knierim Institut fuer Tierhygiene und Tierschutz Tieraerztliche Hochschule Hannover Institute of Animal Hygiene and Welfare School of Veterinary Medicine Hannover Buenteweg 17 p D-30559 Hannover Tel +49 (0)511 953 8449 Fax +49 (0)511 953 8588 uknierim@itt.tiho-hannover.de ************************************************************************** From: IN%"margory@dnai.com" "margory cohen" 25-SEP-2000 09:32:56.22 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: applied-ethology: been requested to ask for information - so: Please: Jay Phinizy, perhaps known by many of you in deerhound and other sighthound venues, when not with his hounds, also is a representative in the House for the State of New Hampshire. He is thinking of introducing legislation which would require all the racing greyhounds in NH to be tested for the various tick borne diseases and is collecting information as to these diseases: names, symptoms, testing protocols, treatments, any scientific studies available, et cetera, et cetera. It would be appropriate and appreciated to write to Jay directly: phinizy@sover.net. thank you. margory From: IN%"Andreas.Briese@tiho-hannover.de" 26-SEP-2000 02:51:12.57 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: urine spraying cats I don't know if the following publication had been mentioned: Dehasse, Joel Feline urine spraying Applied Animal Behaviour Science 52 (1997): 365-371 It may be helpful Best wishes Andreas ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Institut fuer Tierhygiene und Tierschutz Tieraerztliche Hochschule Hannover Institute of Animal Hygiene and Welfare School of Veterinary Medicine Hannover Dr. med. vet. Andreas Briese Buenteweg 17p 30559 Hannover Tel.: (0511) 953-8836 (0511) 120 2102 Fax.: (0511) 953-8588 (0511) 120 99 2102 e-mail: Andreas.Briese@tiho-hannover.de alternativ (grosse Attachments): Andreas_Briese@animcare-sci.de ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: IN%"Andreas.Briese@tiho-hannover.de" 28-SEP-2000 04:14:50.45 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Animal welfare issues in USA ENS-News Service is covering a list of actual initiatives concerning welfare measures in USA (viewed from an european citizen) at the following webadress http://ens-news.com/ens/sep2000/2000L-09-27-15.html The report of a swiss hearing from 31.08.00 about so called "fighting dogs" is online available (in german/french): http://www.bvet.admin.ch/ choose language (german/french) and look under "new". Best wishes Andreas If anybody wants me NOT to adress issues like this to this list, please email and i'll stop it. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Institut fuer Tierhygiene und Tierschutz Tieraerztliche Hochschule Hannover Institute of Animal Hygiene and Welfare School of Veterinary Medicine Hannover Dr. med. vet. Andreas Briese Buenteweg 17p 30559 Hannover Tel.: (0511) 953-8836 (0511) 120 2102 Fax.: (0511) 953-8588 (0511) 120 99 2102 e-mail: Andreas.Briese@tiho-hannover.de alternativ (grosse Attachments): Andreas_Briese@animcare-sci.de ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: IN%"jeanpascal.guery@free.fr" "JEAN-PASCAL GUERY" 28-SEP-2000 15:46:24.08 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "Applied-ethology" CC: Subj: Congress of Applied ethology This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_++7LM6my2kSyJ2ontV9n4g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The University of Paris 13 organises a congress in November 2000. Informations available, in french, on http://www-leec.univ-paris.fr --Boundary_(ID_++7LM6my2kSyJ2ontV9n4g) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
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--Boundary_(ID_Q4RfrQ1XNcE+WQxXDtzmBg)-- From: IN%"beatrice.desmet@rug.ac.be" "Beatrice De Smet" 29-SEP-2000 07:14:08.75 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "Applied Ethology" CC: Subj: e-mail adress Can somebody give me the e-mail address of Prof Broom or Mrs Armstrong of the departement of clinical veterinary medicine in Cambridge? Thanks Dr. B. De Smet Centraal animalarium RUG De Pintelaan 185 9000 Gent Belgium