From: IN%"elena.bajona@animantia.com" "Animantia - Elena Bajona" 18-SEP-2005 16:10:42.91 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Important event in Italy - The history of the Natural Horsemanship from 1800 to our "whisperers" The Natural Horsemanship from 1800 to 2005 Where are the horse whisperers coming from? Why are their methods working? How? IN ITALY a special event dedicated to present the history ante litteram of the so called Natural Horsemanship with the extraordinary partecipation of Ray Hunt the pioneer of the Natural Horsemanship teaching, the founder of the Natural Training methods, 1st October 2005 by Palacitta` di Travagliato, Brescia - Italy Detailed program and information on www.animantia.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tenuta Santa Vittoria 53100 Buriano, Grosseto - Italy Tel/fax: +39 0564 496896 Fax: +39.06 233.106.72 Cell: +39 347 1715852 +39 339 6039581 +39 338 1840489 Website: www.animantia.com From: IN%"Chris.Sherwin@bristol.ac.uk" "CM Sherwin, Animal Health and Husbandry" 19-SEP-2005 03:29:36.77 To: IN%"olsson@ibmc.up.pt" "Anna Olsson", IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: small-size cameras Anna, There is quite a range of 'bullet' CCD type cameras available now. We usually get ours through Tracksys. Have a look at All the best, Chris --On 13 September 2005 10:11 +0100 Anna Olsson wrote: > Dear all, > > I would appreciate if anybody could direct me to a European vendor of > small-size video cameras (for use with a separate recorder) with good > optics and IR sensitivity, maybe somebody that you have bought from > yourself. I'm unable to track down anything else than the "old-fashioned" > CCT-cameras the size of half a shoebox from local vendors. > > Regards, > Anna Olsson > > > Dr Anna Olsson > Researcher > Animal Behaviour and Welfare - Bioethics > > Institute for Molecular and Cell Biology - IBMC > Rua Campo Alegre 823 > 4150-180 Porto > Phone +351 22 607 4900 > Fax +351 22 6099157 > ---------------------- Chris Sherwin Senior Research Fellow in Animal Behaviour and Welfare Division Clinical Veterinary Science University of Bristol Chris.Sherwin@bristol.ac.uk Phone 0117 928 9486 From: IN%"Moira.Harris@bristol.ac.uk" "Moira Harris" 23-SEP-2005 04:10:37.66 To: IN%"applied-ethology@usask.ca" CC: Subj: Mike Baxter? Dear all, Does anybody know the whereabouts (especially the email address) of Mike Baxter? If so, please contact Jeff Rushen at rushenj@agr.gc.ca, to claim your reward. (Please DON'T contact me ... I'm posting this message for a friend, as they say)! Best wishes and thanks, - Moira ------------------------------------- Dr. Moira Harris Dept. Clinical Veterinary Science University of Bristol, Langford House ISAE Membership Secretary moira.harris@bristol.ac.uk Tel. Office: +44 (0)117 928 9404 Tel. Mobile: +44 (0)7795 473275 Fax: +44 (0)117 928 9582 From: IN%"daisyberthoud@yahoo.com" "daisy berthoud" 23-SEP-2005 09:02:22.73 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: scent marking and orientation dear all, i am looking for references or information on animals that use scent marking (urine, feces, any bodily glands) for orientation purposes. that would roughly mean they deposit scent marks in order to 'find their way', 'find their way home', or navigate in the area they live in. i am interested in anything you can think of and thank you in advance, daisy postgrad student anglia polytechnic university __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From: IN%"Michalchik@aol.com" 23-SEP-2005 12:27:37.34 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Task orientation This may be more of a cognitive neuroscience question more than an ethology question but I thought I would field it here in case anybody had an insight about it. The question is, how do animals know what task they are engaged in and what to pay attention to. When a dog plays a game like chase or fetch or a ferret digs a hole or hunts one of its littermates, how does it stick to the set of behaviors that are inherent in the task rather than just generally responding to any cue that might fulfill a goal of potential interest? A good example is play hunting versus real hunting. Both use a similar set of skills and sensory cues but contain a carefully modified set of actions and different starting cues. Similarly, a canine can show "dogged determination" in trying to dig his way out of a fence and seems to isolate stimuli and restrict actions to a certain set that is relevant to the task despite the presence of other stimuli of potential interest. Of course all animal including humans can be distracted by stimuli that are compelling and salient enough, but it is a pretty amazing cognitive feat that we are not always running from one stimulus to another, there-bye disrupting our progress towards a goal. In many ways I think this issue seems more straightforward that it actually is. In our AI research have discovered that focus does not fall out of simple stimulus response chains. My brief scanning of the behaviorist literature seems to indicate that this topic is not well addressed probably because of the proper tendency of scientists to focus on studying animals in simplified and well structured environments. Michael Michalchik Neuroscientist AdaptiveAI.com From: IN%"rbogle@sonic.net" "Rick Bogle" 23-SEP-2005 12:57:29.10 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: Task orientation Use PubMed: Try: attentional AND performance AND distraction (55 papers) attentional AND performance (2832 papers) cognition AND attention AND task (1863 papers) cognition AND distraction (139 papers) be inventive. But the apparent underlying assumption in the question, the cue-response behavioristic concept of dog behavior, too readily dismisses the subjective effect of neurophysiological functions. We, humans and dogs, probably remain involved in a task, choose particular courses of actions, because the goal of our actions remains subjectively in front of us. Throw out mind, and the resulting necessity for cues, learned sets of behaviors, etc, becomes overwhelmingly complex and unlikely as an explanation for most real world behavior. Rick Madison, WI -----Original Message----- From: Michalchik@aol.com [mailto:Michalchik@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:27 PM To: applied-ethology@skyway.usask.ca Subject: Task orientation This may be more of a cognitive neuroscience question more than an ethology question but I thought I would field it here in case anybody had an insight about it. The question is, how do animals know what task they are engaged in and what to pay attention to. When a dog plays a game like chase or fetch or a ferret digs a hole or hunts one of its littermates, how does it stick to the set of behaviors that are inherent in the task rather than just generally responding to any cue that might fulfill a goal of potential interest? A good example is play hunting versus real hunting. Both use a similar set of skills and sensory cues but contain a carefully modified set of actions and different starting cues. Similarly, a canine can show "dogged determination" in trying to dig his way out of a fence and seems to isolate stimuli and restrict actions to a certain set that is relevant to the task despite the presence of other stimuli of potential interest. Of course all animal including humans can be distracted by stimuli that are compelling and salient enough, but it is a pretty amazing cognitive feat that we are not always running from one stimulus to another, there-bye disrupting our progress towards a goal. In many ways I think this issue seems more straightforward that it actually is. In our AI research have discovered that focus does not fall out of simple stimulus response chains. My brief scanning of the behaviorist literature seems to indicate that this topic is not well addressed probably because of the proper tendency of scientists to focus on studying animals in simplified and well structured environments. Michael Michalchik Neuroscientist AdaptiveAI.com From: IN%"clare@amerion.com" "Clare Lewandowski" 25-SEP-2005 10:04:15.38 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: RE: Task orientation http://www.sciencedaily.com/print.php?url=/releases/2005/09/050906074002.htm competing motivations and brain wave activity, a comparative decision being made? which choice feels more urgent at the moment? http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Section=By_Illness&template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=7415 OCD, serotonin and vasopressin, lack of biochemical feedback? lacking sense of when to end a behavior or inaccurate sense of safety/danger? some animals with stereotypic behaviors respond to the same drugs and types of behavioral training that OCD humans do. biochemistry and behavior influencing each other. Kayce Cover has had success with stereotypic behaviors and her perception modification process. Temple Grandin describes oxytocin and vasopressin levels on behavior along with social contact and opiods. 2 variations of her squeeze machine, one with hard surface and one padded had different effects on her. Both were calming but the soft version appears to give more opioids and more social understanding. She immediately understood that her cat disliked a hard squeeze but a soft stroking felt good. She also believes that she went through opiod withdrawal if she did not use the soft machine for several days. Grandin also described how emotions are vital to good decision making, feelings about past and current experiences are needed to make decisions predicting good outcomes. Perhaps several biofeedback systems occur in many behaviors. A well fed house cat may be a better mouser as it does not stop hunting when hunger is satiated. It hunts perhaps to fulfill novelty seeking. A while back I read of a brain wave study showing that cats focused on a mouse did not hear a tone that normally registered a spike in brain waves. When focused the tone did not register any change in brain waves. Perhaps such focus and sensory deletion of competing stimuli is a common hard wired ability. If the first study indicates some sort of comparison is going on to make a decision, would this indicate that in the absence of an already present extreme focus that an internal check of which biochemical 'need' is greater is occurring? When this system is unbalanced, brain lock may occur. Dr. Amen has detailed such imbalances in humans online at http://www.brainplace.com/ http://www.brainplace.com/bp/atlas/ch13.php OCD type behaviors at this link, SSRI's are frequently effective. Behaviors have a beginning, middle and end. If any of these interrupted or altered, behavior will be influenced. If beginnings are not triggered appropriately, the behavior may not appear or appear in an inappropriate context. If the middle--duration, is altered, the behavior may break off before completion or continue long after the basic need is fulfilled--cats and hunting for food vs. out of novelty seeking or OCD type behaviors. If the end signal is inappropriate, doesn't occur such as safety signaling in anxiety based OCD, or a signal indicating the behavior is finished, Grandin described cats becoming frantic when chasing a laser pointer, and that not having anything physical to catch and finish the pursuit behavior was involved. A dog digging under a fence may be 'doggedly determined' due to mental focus that deletes other stimuli or perhaps out of fear, I have to get out of here! and lack of safety signal or another high motivation such as pheromones when a bitch in standing heat is somewhere upwind. How wonderfully complex behavior and the bodymind are! Biochemistry affects behavior and behavior affects the biochemistry. regards Clare ----- Original Message ----- From: Michalchik@aol.com To: applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: Task orientation This may be more of a cognitive neuroscience question more than an ethology question but I thought I would field it here in case anybody had an insight about it. The question is, how do animals know what task they are engaged in and what to pay attention to. When a dog plays a game like chase or fetch or a ferret digs a hole or hunts one of its littermates, how does it stick to the set of behaviors that are inherent in the task rather than just generally responding to any cue that might fulfill a goal of potential interest? A good example is play hunting versus real hunting. Both use a similar set of skills and sensory cues but contain a carefully modified set of actions and different starting cues. Similarly, a canine can show "dogged determination" in trying to dig his way out of a fence and seems to isolate stimuli and restrict actions to a certain set that is relevant to the task despite the presence of other stimuli of potential interest. Of course all animal including humans can be distracted by stimuli that are compelling and salient enough, but it is a pretty amazing cognitive feat that we are not always running from one stimulus to another, there-bye disrupting our progress towards a goal. In many ways I think this issue seems more straightforward that it actually is. In our AI research have discovered that focus does not fall out of simple stimulus response chains. My brief scanning of the behaviorist literature seems to indicate that this topic is not well addressed probably because of the proper tendency of scientists to focus on studying animals in simplified and well structured environments. Michael Michalchik Neuroscientist AdaptiveAI.com From: IN%"jdf04@students.stir.ac.uk" "Jenny Dominique Fraser Hall" 26-SEP-2005 11:31:56.49 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: Introduction Hi my name is Dominique, my dissertation is looking at the personality traits of handlers and police dogs. I will look at the present relationship between man and dog, and then measure the personality traits of both. I am interested in looking at if the traits match, does that mean that they have a good working relationship, or can a 'personality clash' occur? I am on the early stages of my research so if anyone has any thoughts about 'personality clashes' between humans and canines, I would be very interested in hearing them!! Thanks for your time Dom -- The University of Stirling is a university established in Scotland by charter at Stirling, FK9 4LA. Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not disclose, copy or deliver this message to anyone and any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. From: IN%"cristina.giacoma@unito.it" "Cristina Giacoma" 26-SEP-2005 11:49:35.23 To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: chimp aggressivity trouble I do have a problem with a colony of 2 males 25 and 15 years respectively and 2 females. The older male was dominant, The old male is hand reared. The younger male is now very aggressive and blessed twice the older male. Can anyone give suggestions on how to manage this conflictuality ? thanks a lot Cristina -- new phone 011-670 4558 and Fax 011-670 4508 -- Prof. Cristina Giacoma Dip. Biologia Animale e dell'Uomo V. Accademia Albertina, 13 10125 Torino Italy Telephone: Giacoma's Office +39 011 670 4558 collaborators' office +39 011 670 4557 or 4560 laboratory +39 011 670 4559 or 4561 Fax +39 011 670 4508 e-mail: cristina.giacoma@unito.it -- new phone 011-670 4558 and Fax 011-670 4508 -- Prof. Cristina Giacoma Dip. Biologia Animale e dell'Uomo V. Accademia Albertina, 13 10125 Torino Italy Telephone: Giacoma's Office +39 011 670 4558 collaborators' office +39 011 670 4557 or 4560 laboratory +39 011 670 4559 or 4561 Fax +39 011 670 4508 e-mail: cristina.giacoma@unito.it From: IN%"kc@synalia.com" 26-SEP-2005 12:45:55.44 To: IN%"cristina.giacoma@unito.it" "Cristina Giacoma" CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" Subj: RE: chimp aggressivity trouble Dear Cristina, I have experience managing this problem and helping others to manage it. However, in animals that live in groups, ascendance of a new dominant male can be fatal to the failing male - sometimes from injury, and sometimes from a failure to thrive once deposed from his top position. It can help to allow the group to wander between two distinct areas, visually separate. Regardless, there are a number of things that can be done: Break visual contact, and allow escape by putting visual blocks, rotating animals into private areas, allowing them into private areas, creating contours and features in their living areas... These measures have the advantage of being available at all times. However, it is important to check to be sure that subordinate animals cannot be cornered into traps by the dominant animal. Rotate animals into various areas, so they are not always together. However, once animals get sensitized to the dominant animal, a mere movement or sound from him can send the others into jitters, and keep them from food and water, amongst other things. Environmental and mental enrichment may help ease this problem. However, the payoff from self-medication with neurotransmitters appears to be very high, and often eclipses food, and other activities. Once I have optimized the environment for breaking visual contact, allowing avoidance or escape, and maximizing enrichment, I work on reconditioning the animals. It appears that self medication with dopamine, norepinephrine and/or other neurotransmitters is self-reinforcing, whether or not the animal shows fear or aversion to the event which creates the opportunity to self-medicate. Our list member, Stephen Lyndsay (sp?) gathers supporting evidence for this in his most recent book. However, it is possible to make fast and long lasting changes in these reactions, and we have it down to a protocal and it usually takes a few days. In work that I am doing with Wood Green Animal Shelters, in the UK, we have turned around the behavior of 17 dogs, goats and horses that were slated for euthanasia - and we did it in 30 hours or less, per animal. The description of one application of this protocol is available at my website at: http://www.synalia.com/articles/trainPMemotion.html It will have to be modified to fit your animals and conditions, but it contains the elements needed to solve this problem. They are: You need a way to give the animals feedback on how they are meeting your requests. We have two major feedback signals. The Terminal Bridge(TB) tells the animal when it has been successful at meeting your request. The Intermediate Bridge(IB) tells the animal he is making progress toward meeting your request but is not finished yet. You need a systematic way of communicating what you want, to your animals. We use targets to demonstrate behaviors and locations, and then we name these behaviors and locations, so that we can refer to them by name later. For example, if you want the dominant chimp to turn away from the other chimps, you can use a(some) target(s) to show where you want him to be, and the IB to mark his progress, finishing with the TB, at which point you name the action/location (for example "turn away"). You need to teach all animals to relax on cue, so that they can be cued to relax. You need a way to refer to events and individuals relevant to this problem. You can countercondition response to individuals, which is likely to give some help. However it is more effective to teach the dominant animal to access relaxation and/or to turn his attention toward something else, rather than the subordinate animals. There are details on how to do this, and sometimes it is possible to get the animals to respect this all the time, and sometimes it is more likely that they will respect it whenever humans are around to respond to the situation. However, we are often able to allow animals who have been constantly involved in conflict to eat in peace together, or to get attention in the presence of the dominant animal, in a matter of a few sessions. Best wishes, Kayce Kayce Cover, MS Syn Alia Training Systems http://www.synalia.com 757 588 5967 or 757 214 2836 > I do have a problem with a colony of 2 males 25 and 15 years > respectively and 2 females. The older male was dominant, The old male > is hand reared. The younger male is now very aggressive and blessed > twice the older male. > > Can anyone give suggestions on how to manage this conflictuality ? > > thanks a lot > > Cristina > > -- > new phone 011-670 4558 and Fax 011-670 4508 > > -- > Prof. Cristina Giacoma > Dip. Biologia Animale e dell'Uomo > V. Accademia Albertina, 13 > 10125 Torino > Italy > > Telephone: > Giacoma's Office +39 011 670 4558 > collaborators' office +39 011 670 4557 or 4560 > laboratory +39 011 670 4559 or 4561 > Fax +39 011 670 4508 > > e-mail: cristina.giacoma@unito.it > > -- > new phone 011-670 4558 and Fax 011-670 4508 > > -- > Prof. Cristina Giacoma > Dip. Biologia Animale e dell'Uomo > V. Accademia Albertina, 13 > 10125 Torino > Italy > > Telephone: > Giacoma's Office +39 011 670 4558 > collaborators' office +39 011 670 4557 or 4560 > laboratory +39 011 670 4559 or 4561 > Fax +39 011 670 4508 > > e-mail: cristina.giacoma@unito.it > > > Kayce Cover Syn Alia Training Systems http://www.synalia.com From: IN%"Moira.Harris@bristol.ac.uk" "Moira Harris" 27-SEP-2005 05:13:46.99 To: IN%"isaenet-L@usask.ca", IN%"applied-ethology@usask.ca" CC: Subj: The new Dr Sara Jackson Dear ISAE members and applied-ethology list subscribers, Some good news! (And a nice change from me hassling people about paying their ISAE subscriptions) .... ... Sara Jackson was apparently 'very impressive' in her PhD viva examination yesterday, and is now Dr Sara Jackson. Well done, Sara!!! If you see Sara, who is currently hot-footing to Cambridge to start her veterinary degree, please congratulate her. If not, I'm sure she would appreciate hearing from you via email: sara.jackson@bristol.ac.uk. Best wishes, - Moira ------------------------------------- Dr. Moira Harris Dept. Clinical Veterinary Science University of Bristol, Langford House ISAE Membership Secretary moira.harris@bristol.ac.uk Tel. Office: +44 (0)117 928 9404 Tel. Mobile: +44 (0)7795 473275 Fax: +44 (0)117 928 9582 From: IN%"honeyq@ksu.edu" "Kari Wallentine" 27-SEP-2005 12:11:59.75 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "Applied-ethology listserv" CC: Subj: Electronic Copy of Journal Article Listserve members, I am trying to find an electronic copy of a journal article written by S. Kondo, and J. F. Hurnik. The title is "Stabilization of social hierarchy in dairy cows. It is vol. 27, 1990. P 287-297. If anyone has an electronic copy that you could send me, that would be wonderful. I am needing to reprint Figure 1, and have already received permission from Elsevier. Thank you, Kari Wallentine From: IN%"kc@synalia.com" 27-SEP-2005 13:29:24.53 To: IN%"clare@amerion.com" "Clare Lewandowski" CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" Subj: RE: Task orientation Hi Clare, I read your post with interest and will be following up the links and references. You mentioned the work we are doing with OC dogs, etc. We are turning around some animals that I frankly questioned whether it was possible to turn around - obsessive tail chasers, head butters, hyperarroused and aggressive animals - some cases so extreme I thought it impossible. So far, the maximum time investment has been 30 hours. What fascinates me most about all this is that we are convinced that these stereotyped and difficult behaviors are used as means to access neurotransmitters - a form of self-medication. We are using information and conditioning to reprogram these triggers. I think that the applications are endless. But it is amazing to see it day after day. And, it is worth noting that we use NO drugs/medications and usually do not even use food, toys, etc. I will be in the UK doing seminars at Wood Green again on October 9-10, so will get a chance to see the latest results and work on some new cases. The following week, I will repeat the process in the Netherlands. Last time in the Netherlands, we turned around a couple of hard cases, one slated for death, and the other a cana pressario that was being ardently managed. A journalist followed up on the cana pressario and reported that he got out of the house with a mixed pit bull, went to visit the butcher, and was brought home by the butcher. This is a dog that had years of history of threatening anyone who dared to look at him. Each time I come away with my head full of the implications - to the developing paradigm of how behavior works, as well as to what it may mean for pet owners and researchers, etc. Best wishes, Kayce Kayce Cover Syn Alia Training Systems http://www.synalia.com > http://www.sciencedaily.com/print.php?url=/releases/2005/09/050906074002.htm > competing motivations and brain wave activity, a comparative decision > being made? which choice feels more urgent at the moment? > http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Section=By_Illness&template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=7415 > OCD, serotonin and vasopressin, lack of biochemical feedback? lacking > sense of when to end a behavior or inaccurate sense of safety/danger? some > animals with stereotypic behaviors respond to the same drugs and types of > behavioral training that OCD humans do. biochemistry and behavior > influencing each other. Kayce Cover has had success with stereotypic > behaviors and her perception modification process. > From: IN%"honeyq@ksu.edu" "Kari Wallentine" 27-SEP-2005 13:34:37.64 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" "Applied-ethology listserv" CC: Subj: Electronic Copy of Journal Article (name included) Hilit and other listserv members, I wrote the previous request for a fellow graduate student and neglected to include the name of the journal (which is always helpful). I apologize for the mental blunder. Here is the correct information: Journal of Applied Animal Behaviour Science, Vol. 27, 1990. P 287-297. "Stabilization of social hierarchy in dairy cows" by S. Kondo and J. F. Hurnik. Thanks Kari From: IN%"clare@amerion.com" "Clare Lewandowski" 27-SEP-2005 18:24:14.77 To: IN%"kc@synalia.com" CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" Subj: RE: Task orientation Kayce, I remember hearing that Woodgreen's rescue program has had great success with your SATS method on some extreme cases. Any before and after video clips on some of these? Self medicating as a motivation for these behaviors makes sense. What I've read on OCD is that the behaviors help relieve some unbearable feelings of anxiety, confusion or frustration. The book Shadow Syndromes described some behavioral therapies that were having success and permitting people to either reduce or eventually stop their medication. If medication alters their neurotransmitters in a way that stops the behaviors and behavioral practices can alleviate the need for medication, my hunch is that their behavior in both cases, the OCD behaviors and new alternative behaviors are both changing their neurochemistry. And you are helping these animals change their brain chemistry as well. Dr. Amen's website has changed and I don't know if it is still there but he had some online information about behavioral traits as indicators of underlying neurotransmitter imbalances. The major neurotransmitters of Dopamine, Noreadrenaline and Serotonin either high or low have some specific patterns. His book Brain Storms describes these in detail. http://amenclinics.com/bp/ new link for the brain place website. You may be helping teach the animals a new way to self medicate in a good way like a runner's high, or relieving the underlying problem that triggered the need to medicate. Clare ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kayce Cover" To: "Clare Lewandowski" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Task orientation > Hi Clare, > > I read your post with interest and will be following up the links and > references. > > You mentioned the work we are doing with OC dogs, etc. We are turning > around some animals that I frankly questioned whether it was possible to > turn around - obsessive tail chasers, head butters, hyperarroused and > aggressive animals - some cases so extreme I thought it impossible. So > far, the maximum time investment has been 30 hours. > > What fascinates me most about all this is that we are convinced that these > stereotyped and difficult behaviors are used as means to access > neurotransmitters - a form of self-medication. We are using information > and conditioning to reprogram these triggers. I think that the > applications are endless. But it is amazing to see it day after day. > And, it is worth noting that we use NO drugs/medications and usually do > not even use food, toys, etc. > > I will be in the UK doing seminars at Wood Green again on October 9-10, so > will get a chance to see the latest results and work on some new cases. > The following week, I will repeat the process in the Netherlands. Last > time in the Netherlands, we turned around a couple of hard cases, one > slated for death, and the other a cana pressario that was being ardently > managed. A journalist followed up on the cana pressario and reported that > he got out of the house with a mixed pit bull, went to visit the butcher, > and was brought home by the butcher. This is a dog that had years of > history of threatening anyone who dared to look at him. Each time I come > away with my head full of the implications - to the developing paradigm of > how behavior works, as well as to what it may mean for pet owners and > researchers, etc. > > Best wishes, > Kayce > > > > Kayce Cover > Syn Alia Training Systems > http://www.synalia.com > > >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/print.php?url=/releases/2005/09/050906074002.htm >> competing motivations and brain wave activity, a comparative decision >> being made? which choice feels more urgent at the moment? >> http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Section=By_Illness&template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=7415 >> OCD, serotonin and vasopressin, lack of biochemical feedback? lacking >> sense of when to end a behavior or inaccurate sense of safety/danger? >> some >> animals with stereotypic behaviors respond to the same drugs and types of >> behavioral training that OCD humans do. biochemistry and behavior >> influencing each other. Kayce Cover has had success with stereotypic >> behaviors and her perception modification process. >> > > > From: IN%"gooddog@dodo.com.au" "Greg & Jackie" 28-SEP-2005 14:29:51.44 To: IN%"Moira.Harris@bristol.ac.uk" "'Moira Harris'" CC: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" Subj: RE: The new Dr Sara Jackson Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmm Is it appropriate to use this list to congratulate educational achievements? Of course it is! Well done Sara, I mean Dr Sara! Jackie Perkins -----Original Message----- From: Moira Harris [mailto:Moira.Harris@bristol.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:14 PM To: isaenet-L@usask.ca; applied-ethology@usask.ca Subject: The new Dr Sara Jackson Dear ISAE members and applied-ethology list subscribers, Some good news! (And a nice change from me hassling people about paying their ISAE subscriptions) .... ... Sara Jackson was apparently 'very impressive' in her PhD viva examination yesterday, and is now Dr Sara Jackson. Well done, Sara!!! If you see Sara, who is currently hot-footing to Cambridge to start her veterinary degree, please congratulate her. If not, I'm sure she would appreciate hearing from you via email: sara.jackson@bristol.ac.uk. Best wishes, - Moira ------------------------------------- Dr. Moira Harris Dept. Clinical Veterinary Science University of Bristol, Langford House ISAE Membership Secretary moira.harris@bristol.ac.uk Tel. Office: +44 (0)117 928 9404 Tel. Mobile: +44 (0)7795 473275 Fax: +44 (0)117 928 9582 From: IN%"standcounted@yahoo.com" "Kirsten Arnesen" 30-SEP-2005 13:26:41.78 To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca" CC: Subj: New member Hello, My name is Kirsten Arnesen. I'm thrilled to have found a forum addressing applied ethology. A little about myself: I am a graduate of Cornell University, with a BS in Animal Science. My primary interest is in canine behavior and that is, in fact, where I devote most of my free time and energy! I particularly signed on for this discussion list so that I might ask how to go about furthering my education in the field of applied ethology. Any information that could be extended on that front would be most greatly appreciated. More specifically, what universties offer a PhD program? What is the best course of action for one wishing to move forward in this field? What opportunities lie beyond? Again, any and all information regarding this will be appreciated! Sincerely, Kirsten Arnesen --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.